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Date:	Wed, 6 May 2015 09:25:43 +0100
From:	James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com>
To:	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@...omium.org>
CC:	Ralf Baechle <ralf@...ux-mips.org>,
	Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MIPS <linux-mips@...ux-mips.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	James Hartley <james.hartley@...tec.com>,
	Damien Horsley <Damien.Horsley@...tec.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/3] phy: Add binding document for Pistachio USB2.0 PHY

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 06:06:08PM -0700, Andrew Bresticker wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 04:09:31PM -0700, Andrew Bresticker wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:43 PM, James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 03:16:23PM -0700, Andrew Bresticker wrote:
> >> >> Hi James,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:01 PM, James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Andrew,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 03:04:16PM -0700, Andrew Bresticker wrote:
> >> >> >> Add a binding document for the USB2.0 PHY found on the IMG Pistachio SoC.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Signed-off-by: Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@...omium.org>
> >> >> >> Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>
> >> >> >> Cc: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>
> >> >> >> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
> >> >> >> Cc: Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>
> >> >> >> Cc: Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>
> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >> No changes from v1.
> >> >> >> ---
> >> >> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/phy/pistachio-usb-phy.txt  | 29 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >> >>  include/dt-bindings/phy/phy-pistachio-usb.h        | 16 ++++++++++++
> >> >> >>  2 files changed, 45 insertions(+)
> >> >> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/pistachio-usb-phy.txt
> >> >> >>  create mode 100644 include/dt-bindings/phy/phy-pistachio-usb.h
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/pistachio-usb-phy.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/pistachio-usb-phy.txt
> >> >> >> new file mode 100644
> >> >> >> index 0000000..afbc7e2
> >> >> >> --- /dev/null
> >> >> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/phy/pistachio-usb-phy.txt
> >> >> >> @@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
> >> >> >> +IMG Pistachio USB PHY
> >> >> >> +=====================
> >> >> >> +
> >> >> >> +Required properties:
> >> >> >> +--------------------
> >> >> >> + - compatible: Must be "img,pistachio-usb-phy".
> >> >> >> + - #phy-cells: Must be 0.  See ./phy-bindings.txt for details.
> >> >> >> + - clocks: Must contain an entry for each entry in clock-names.
> >> >> >> +   See ../clock/clock-bindings.txt for details.
> >> >> >> + - clock-names: Must include "usb_phy".
> >> >> >> + - img,cr-top: Must constain a phandle to the CR_TOP syscon node.
> >> >> >> + - img,refclk: Indicates the reference clock source for the USB PHY.
> >> >> >> +   See <dt-bindings/phy/phy-pistachio-usb.h> for a list of valid values.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Possibly dumb question: why isn't the reference clock source specified
> >> >> > in the normal ways like the "usb_phy" clock is?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Does the value required here depend on what usb_phy clock gets muxed
> >> >> > from or something?
> >> >>
> >> >> Right, the value indicates what clock "usb_phy" is: whether it comes
> >> >> from the core clock controller, the XO crystal, or is some external
> >> >> clock.  It's a mux internal to the PHY.
> >> >
> >> > Okay. If its a software controllable mux, is there a particular reason
> >> > the DT doesn't describe it as such, i.e. have all 3 clock inputs, and
> >> > the driver somehow work out which to use?
> >>
> >> Well, I'm not sure how the driver would determine which clock to use
> >> without a device-tree property like the one I've got here :).  Also,
> >
> > Does it make sense to just look for the "best" usable source clock based
> > on the supported rates listed in fsel_rate_map[] (for some definition of
> > "best" such as "fastest" / "slowest" / "first usable"), or are things
> > just not that simple?
> >
> > I'm just wondering how the DT writer would decide, since it seems to
> > come down to a policy decision rather than a description of the
> > hardware, which should probably be avoided in DT bindings if possible.
> 
> Ah, sorry if that was unclear - this *is* describing a hardware
> property.  The DT author would pick a value by looking at which clock
> is connected to the PHY in the schematic.

Okay cool. Sorry for the noise.

Thanks
James

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