linux-kernel - Re: xfs: does mkfs.xfs require fancy switches to get decent performance? (was Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync?)

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Date:	Wed, 13 May 2015 13:02:34 -0700
From:	Jeremy Allison <jra@...ba.org>
To:	Daniel Phillips <daniel@...nq.net>
Cc:	Martin Steigerwald <martin@...htvoll.de>,
	David Lang <david@...g.hm>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Howard Chu <hyc@...as.com>, Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, tux3@...3.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>
Subject: Re: xfs: does mkfs.xfs require fancy switches to get decent
 performance? (was Tux3 Report: How fast can we fsync?)

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:37:41PM -0700, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On 05/13/2015 12:09 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> 
> > "Assume good faith" can help here. No amount of accusing people of bad 
> > intention will change them. The only thing you have the power to change is 
> > your approach. You absolutely and ultimately do not have the power to change 
> > other people. You can´t force Tux3 in by sheer willpower or attacking 
> > people.
> > 
> > On any account for anyone discussing here: I believe that any personal 
> > attacks, counter-attacks or "you are wrong" kind of speech will not help to 
> > move this discussion out of the circling it seems to be in at the moment.
> 
> Thanks for the sane commentary. I have the power to change my behavior.
> But if nobody else changes their behavior, the process remains just as
> unpleasant for us as it ever was (not just me!). Obviously, this is
> not the first time I have been through this, and it has never been
> pleasant. After a while, contributors just get tired of the grind and
> move on to something more fun. I know I did, and I am far from the
> only one.

Daniel, please listen to Martin. He speaks a fundamental truth
here.

As you know, I am also interested in Tux3, and would love to
see it as a filesystem option for NAS servers using Samba. But
please think about the way you're interacting with people on the
list, and whether that makes this outcome more or less likely.

Cheers,

	Jeremy.
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