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Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu958H0w9n=PE3fTK2ZaZptSb5s0+m=xfGRMosq7kCGqTA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:34:39 +0200
From:	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Enter CPU in ARM state for cpu_resume

On 2 June 2015 at 10:34, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 08:18:18AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>> On 1 June 2015 at 23:45, Russell King - ARM Linux
>> <linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Please do this differently.  The default should be (as we do with
>> > the SMP secondary entry path) to assume that the firmware does the
>> > right thing.
>> >
>> > So, if we want an ARM-mode entry point, please use:
>> >
>> > +               .arm
>> > +ENTRY(cpu_resume_arm)
>> > + THUMB(        badr    r9, 1f          )       @ Kernel is entered in ARM.
>> > + THUMB(        bx      r9              )       @ If this is a Thumb-2 kernel,
>> > + THUMB(        .thumb                  )       @ switch to Thumb now.
>> > + THUMB(1:                      )
>> >
>> > Don't forget an ENDPROC() for the new symbol.  Buggy platforms then
>> > use cpu_resume_arm instead of cpu_resume.
>> >
>>
>> OK, I think that was Stephen intention at first, but I suggested this instead.
>>
>> The point is that it is safer and more tidy to make these entry points
>> ARM only throughout, and switch to Thumb2 only if THUMB2_KERNEL. This
>> way, since all firmwares (except ARMv7-M, but let's disregard that for
>> now) are known to be able to enter/resume into the kernel in ARM mode,
>> this is more robust in the face of new platforms and firmware
>> revisions of existing platforms.
>
> Stop creating random interfaces with differing ways to call them.
> Consistency is one of the important things.
>

Consistency was actually the point of my suggestion, but I see how the
pre-existence of secondary_startup_arm() and your point regarding
treating broken firmware as the exception may lead to the opposite
conclusion.


> We have three interfaces to the kernel:
>
> - Boot
> - Secondary CPU
> - Resume
>
> Out of those three, boot is the special one, as we have no way to
> communicate what mode it is required - so we specify a mode, which
> is ARM mode, except for CPUs which have no ARM mode support.
>
> Secondary CPU is not defined in the booting document because it's
> not relevant, and it's not relevant for the same reason that the
> resume entry point isn't.  These entry points are not at a fixed
> location in the kernel image, and the kernel has to communicate that,
> along with their entry mode to the firmware.
>
> Therefore, firmware _does_ have the information to discover whether
> the address should be called in ARM or Thumb mode, and what's more,
> it should just work on those platforms which have no ARM mode support.
>
> If we start forcing these interfaces to be ARM mode only, we then need
> the same work-arounds for them as for the boot interface.
>
> In other words, boot has a _valid_ reason to be different, the other
> two are very similar in how they should be called.
>
> Besides, I'm not pandering to broken firmware.  We should do the right
> thing by default, which is to have sane interfaces, and only work around
> stuff where needed.
>
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