linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] debug: Deprecate BUG_ON() use in new code, introduce CRASH

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Date:	Mon, 8 Jun 2015 21:35:14 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de>
Cc:	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>,
	Louis Langholtz <lou_langholtz@...com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Trivial patch monkey <trivial@...nel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] debug: Deprecate BUG_ON() use in new code, introduce
 CRASH_ON()


* Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de> wrote:

> Am 08.06.2015 um 13:27 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> >
> >* Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de> wrote:
> >
> >>>I am pretty certain that Greg would have applied such a patch in an eye blink.
> >>
> >>As you've said it, *probably*. But such a simple exit path as you're proposing
> >>doesn't always exist. [...]
> >
> >As I said it's case by case. I discussed your example (which was a deficient patch
> >for multiple reasons) but we'd be wasting everyone's time by discussion
> >hypothethical situations.
> 
> Sure it was a deficient patch, but still better than what existed for a year 
> long in the kernel [...]

... but it was still worse than the simple solution I suggested:

	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(port->itty))
		return;

again, the BUG_ON() you wanted to introduce was wrong on multiple grounds, then 
and now. Why are you still arguing about this?

> I just want to make clear that a brutforce slogan like BUG_ON is bad is bad,

I pointed out specific cases where a BUG_ON() is the right solution. They are 
rare. Stop misrepresenting my words.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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