linux-kernel - Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?

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Message-ID: <CAMuHMdUBvTXdkD149oSxepiRYmXOOMcxm-cFwVnAWJG32cZbQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:57:45 +0200
From:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To:	David Lang <david@...g.hm>
Cc:	Martin Steigerwald <martin@...htvoll.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@...il.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:12 PM, David Lang <david@...g.hm> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015, 10:39:52 schrieb David Lang:
>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>> And the thing is, in hindsight, after such huge flamewars, years down
>>>> the line, almost never do I see the following question asked: 'what
>>>> were we thinking merging that crap??'. If any question arises it's
>>>> usually along the lines of: 'what was the big fuss about?'. So I think
>>>> by and large the process works.
>>>
>>> counterexamples, devfs, tux
>>
>> What was tux?
>
> in-kernel webserver

Which was cool, and small, and _faster_ than anything else...
Until it was integrated, and people working on (userspace) webservers
started considering its performance as a target, and soon it was
out-performed by userspace webservers...

So it did teach us a lesson...

(Perhaps the above paragraph is actually good advocacy for integrating
 kdbus, and for seeding a better userspace implementation? ;-)

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

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Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org

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