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Message-ID: <20150702091520.GA8539@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:15:20 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@...el.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	"Chandramouli, Dasaratharaman" 
	<dasaratharaman.chandramouli@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, msr: Allow read access to /dev/cpu/X/msr


* Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Brown, Len <len.brown@...el.com> wrote:
>
> > BTW. I've had a discussion w/ LLNL about their needs, both for security and 
> > performance.  For security, as concluded by this thread, a white list is the 
> > only way to go. I'm thinking a bit-vector of allowed MSR offsets... For 
> > performance, they absolutely can not afford a system call for every single MSR 
> > access.
> 
> I'm surprised.  On a sane kernel, a syscall is about 120 cycles.  Just rdmsr to 
> an unoptimized MSR is probably fifty cycles, I'd guess.

RDMSR to a non-fastpath MSR is more like a hundred cycles:

[  104.151166] x86/bench: ---------------------------
[  104.155350] x86/bench: | Running x86 benchmarks: |
[  104.159530] x86/bench: -------------------------------------------------------------------
[  104.167604] x86/bench: |                 RDTSC-cycles:    hot  (±noise) /   cold  (±noise)
[  104.175870] x86/bench: -------------------------------------------------------------------

Ancient box (10 years old):

               x86/bench: rdmsr                         :     36           /     17  (±29.4%)
               x86/bench: wrmsr                         :    198           /    245

AMD box (2 years old):
...
[  173.208130] x86/bench: rdmsr                         :    121           /    169  (±18.9%)
[  174.633653] x86/bench: wrmsr                         :    365           /    422  (± 9.2%)

Intel box (1 year old):
...
[  130.185195] x86/bench: rdmsr                         :    100           /    112
[  131.263560] x86/bench: wrmsr                         :    492           /    728  (±15.3%)

so the RDMSR cost got progressively worse as MSRs got farther and farther away 
from the core and microcode execution got progressively worse as well.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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