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Date:	Wed, 8 Jul 2015 22:14:25 -0700
From:	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
Cc:	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>, Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] driver-core: add asynchronous probing support for drivers

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
<dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 05:36:04PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> >> <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 01:23:15AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 07:09:19AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@...e.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 04:45:25PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> >> >> > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
>> >> >> > >> <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> > Some devices take a long time when initializing, and not all drivers are
>> >> >> > >> > suited to initialize their devices when they are open. For example,
>> >> >> > >> > input drivers need to interrogate their devices in order to publish
>> >> >> > >> > device's capabilities before userspace will open them. When such drivers
>> >> >> > >> > are compiled into kernel they may stall entire kernel initialization.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > This change allows drivers request for their probe functions to be
>> >> >> > >> > called asynchronously during driver and device registration (manual
>> >> >> > >> > binding is still synchronous). Because async_schedule is used to perform
>> >> >> > >> > asynchronous calls module loading will still wait for the probing to
>> >> >> > >> > complete.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Note that the end goal is to make the probing asynchronous by default,
>> >> >> > >> > so annotating drivers with PROBE_PREFER_ASYNCHRONOUS is a temporary
>> >> >> > >> > measure that allows us to speed up boot process while we validating and
>> >> >> > >> > fixing the rest of the drivers and preparing userspace.
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > This change is based on earlier patch by "Luis R. Rodriguez"
>> >> >> > >> > <mcgrof@...e.com>
>> >> >> > >> >
>> >> >> > >> > Signed-off-by: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
>> >> >> > >> > ---
>> >> >> > >> >  drivers/base/base.h    |   1 +
>> >> >> > >> >  drivers/base/bus.c     |  31 +++++++---
>> >> >> > >> >  drivers/base/dd.c      | 149 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>> >> >> > >> >  include/linux/device.h |  28 ++++++++++
>> >> >> > >> >  4 files changed, 182 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)
>> >> >> > >>
>> >> >> > >> Just noticed this patch.  It caught my eye because I had a hard time
>> >> >> > >> getting an open coded implementation of asynchronous probing to work
>> >> >> > >> in the new libnvdimm subsystem.  Especially the messy races of tearing
>> >> >> > >> things down while probing is still in flight.  I ended up implementing
>> >> >> > >> asynchronous device registration which eliminated a lot of complexity
>> >> >> > >> and of course the bugs.  In general I tend to think that async
>> >> >> > >> registration is less risky than async probe since it keeps wider
>> >> >> > >> portions of the traditional device model synchronous
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > but its not see -DEFER_PROBE even before async probe.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Except in that case you know probe has been seen by the driver at
>> >> >> > least once.  So I see that as less of a surprise, but point taken.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >> and leverages the
>> >> >> > >> fact that the device model is already well prepared for asynchronous
>> >> >> > >> arrival of devices due to hotplug.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I think this sounds reasonable, do you have your code upstream or posted?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yes, see nd_device_register() in drivers/nvdimm/bus.c
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It should be I think rather easy for Dmitry to see if he can convert this input
>> >> >> driver (not yet upstream) to this API and see if the same issues are fixed.
>> >> >
>> >> > No, I would rather not as it means we lose error handling on device
>> >> > registration.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I think this is a red herring as I don't see how async probing is any
>> >> better at handling device registration errors.  The error is logged
>> >> and "handled" by the fact that a device fails to appear, what other
>> >> action would you take?  In fact libnvdimm does detect registration
>> >> failures and reports that in a parent device attribute (at least for a
>> >> region device and their namespace child devices).
>> >
>> > What is libnvdimm behavior if you try to unload a module that tries to
>> > register a device but it failed? Memory leak or crash, right?
>>
>> No, in the case of the "region" driver it is part of the core
>> libnvdimm and it is pinned while any region device is active.
>
> No, not quite. Let's take a look for example at nd_btt_probe(). It calls
> __nd_btt_create() which in turn calls __nd_device_register() which
> returns void and asynchronously schedules device registration. Now
> consider the device registration fails. The async code will drop 2
> references to the device, effectively freeing it. In the mean time
> nd_btt_probe() stores the device pointer which may or may no longer be
> valid and goes on it's merry way using it.

nd_btt_probe() is the driver probe for the btt device.  If
registration fails then the device is never probed.

> The similar thing in nvdimm_create which returns a pointer that may no
> longer be valid

Exactly, which is why we fail the entire bus probe if any of the
nvdimm devices failed to register.  See nvdimm_bus_check_dimm_count().

> I have not traced enough through the code to make sure
> if it can blow up, but this kind of situation is not desirable,
> especially if the async registration pattern is applied generally
> throughout the kernel.

I do appreciate the review, but I don't think this signals the death
knell for async registration just yet.
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