linux-kernel - Re: First kernel patch (optimization)

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Message-ID: <55FD6DB6.1090003@ahsoftware.de>
Date:	Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:14:14 +0200
From:	Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org>,
	Eric Curtin <ericcurtin17@...il.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>,
	Steve Calfee <stevecalfee@...il.com>,
	Valentina Manea <valentina.manea.m@...il.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah.kh@...sung.com>,
	USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: First kernel patch (optimization)

Am 19.09.2015 um 14:52 schrieb Alexander Holler:
> Am 19.09.2015 um 07:18 schrieb Greg KH:
>
>> I have been saying for years that we have a lack of real projects /
>> tasks / ideas for people who are skilled, yet have no idea what to do.
>> I know of well over a hundred people I have email addresses of that have
>> asked me for these types of things, and have patches in the kernel that
>> are non-trivial to prove that they have the skill to do real things.
>>
>> It's a real problem, and one that I don't have an answer for.  We need
>> these types of tasks, and I don't have them, and every maintainer I ask
>> about it also doesn't have them.  What we are asking for is people to
>> somehow come up with tasks on their own, as if they know what needs to
>> be done.
>
> I've recently posted a proof of concept for wiping files, or in other
> words to really delete files, And it was a disaster because if someone
> posts imperfect pathhes on this list, people have fun trying to eat you
> (because they seem bored or whatever).
>
> Even posting perfect patches is a game, because there exists always a
> space, newline or variable name which might be used to start annoying
> discussions.
>
> So, there is no reason to wonder about the lack of such tasks.
>
> So even if you don't agree, here as task: wipe files in real. ;)

By the way, in that discussion (about wiping files) I was blamed for 
writing bugs in bugzilla without offering a patch, for something they 
believe it is a feature (whereas I still believe it is a bug to not 
really delete files). That leaded me to the question if there is 
somewhere a feature request tracker, for which I've got, of course, no 
answer.

So, if there is a lack of real projects / tasks / ideas, maybe it might 
make sense to setup such a feature request tracker (or idea pool), maybe 
with the possibility to let people up/down vote ideas.

Regards,

Alexander Holler
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