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Date:	Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:12:27 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
To:	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@...n.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Skip wake_affine() for core siblings

On Mon, 2015-09-28 at 13:28 +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:

> Looks like, NAK may be better, because it saves L1 cache, while the patch always invalidates it.

Yeah, bounce hurts more when there's no concurrency win waiting to be
collected.  This mixed load wasn't a great choice, but it turned out to
be pretty interesting.  Something waking a gaggle of waiters on a busy
big socket should do very bad things.

> Could you say, do you execute pgbench using just -cX -jY -T30 or something special? I've tried it,
> but the dispersion of the results much differs from time to time.

pgbench -T $testtime -j 1 -S -c $clients

> > Ok, that's what I want to see, full repeat.
> > master = twiddle
> > master+ = twiddle+patch
> > 
> > concurrent tbench 4 + pgbench, 2 minutes per client count (i4790+smt)
> >                                              master                           master+
> > pgbench                   1       2       3     avg         1       2       3     avg   comp
> > clients 1       tps = 18599   18627   18532   18586     17480   17682   17606   17589   .946
> > clients 2       tps = 32344   32313   32408   32355     25167   26140   23730   25012   .773
> > clients 4       tps = 52593   51390   51095   51692     22983   23046   22427   22818   .441
> > clients 8       tps = 70354   69583   70107   70014     66924   66672   69310   67635   .966
> > 
> > Hrm... turn the tables, measure tbench while pgbench 4 client load runs endlessly.
> > 
> >                                              master                           master+
> > tbench                    1       2       3     avg         1       2       3     avg   comp
> > pairs 1        MB/s =   430     426     436     430       481     481     494     485  1.127
> > pairs 2        MB/s =  1083    1085    1072    1080      1086    1090    1083    1086  1.005
> > pairs 4        MB/s =  1725    1697    1729    1717      2023    2002    2006    2010  1.170
> > pairs 8        MB/s =  2740    2631    2700    2690      3016    2977    3071    3021  1.123
> > 
> > tbench without competition
> >                master        master+   comp
> > pairs 1        MB/s =   694     692    .997 
> > pairs 2        MB/s =  1268    1259    .992
> > pairs 4        MB/s =  2210    2165    .979
> > pairs 8        MB/s =  3586    3526    .983  (yawn, all within routine variance)
> 
> Hm, it seems tbench with competition is better only because of a busy system makes tbench
> processes be woken on the same cpu.

Yeah.  When box is really full, select_idle_sibling() (obviously) turns
into a waste of cycles, but even as you approach that, especially when
filling the box with identical copies of nearly fully synchronous high
frequency localhost packet blasters, stacking is a win.

What bent my head up a bit was the combined effect of making wake_wide()
really keep pgbench from collapsing then adding the affine wakeup grant
for tbench.  It's not at all clear to me why 2,4 would be so demolished.

	-Mike

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