linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] dt-bindings: add SMP enable-method for Broadcom NSP

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Date:	Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:07:13 +0530
From:	Kapil Hali <kapilh@...adcom.com>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
CC:	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
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	"Ian Campbell" <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>, Ray Jui <rjui@...adcom.com>,
	Scott Branden <sbranden@...adcom.com>,
	Jon Mason <jonmason@...adcom.com>,
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	Lee Jones <lee@...nel.org>, Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@...ke-m.de>,
	Kever Yang <kever.yang@...k-chips.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@...om.net>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul@...an.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] dt-bindings: add SMP enable-method for Broadcom
 NSP

Hi Russell,

On 11/10/2015 9:55 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:33:12PM +0530, Kapil Hali wrote:
>> Hi Russel,
> 
> Wrong.  Look at my name as sent in the From: and as quoted in the very
> next line.  As far as I'm concerned (and I don't care what other people
> say) it's disrespectful to spell people's names incorrectly.
> 
I am sincerely apologetic about it. It was a deviation that will not 
repeat again. 
>> It was clear the very first time itself as pointed out by you and the 
>> lead developers and hence the change was readily sent in the very next
>> patch set. I didn't change a comment in this patch, which is misleading 
>> about the SMP enable-method used in the patch set, it is my mistake and   
>> I apologies for the same. I will change it and send the next patch set.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> Also, before sending out the patch set, I had asked for a clarification 
>> about the method: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/6/234
> 
> Sorry, I don't read every single email irrespective of how it's marked.
> There's way too much email, and way too much mail with improperly
> classified recipient lists to be able to usefully sort this mail.
> (If you do the math, the email rate during a 12 hour working day from
> just linux-arm-kernel is one email every 2.5 minutes, assuming 300 emails
> a day.  It takes way longer than that to compose a proper reply to an
> email - I've spent around 15 minutes on this one alone.  Hence, if I'm
> busy, I more or less totally ignore email now, and rarely bother to
> "catch up" with missed emails.)
> 
>> For my understanding, I am repeating my query- In case of simple method of 
>> waking up secondary core, smp_boot_secondary() will always return success 
>> indicating secondary core successfully started. I understand that in 
>> __cpu_up(), primary core waits for completion till secondary core comes 
>> online or time outs. However, is it appropriate to return successful start 
>> of secondary core without knowing if it really did?
> 
> Yes, because all that your smp_boot_secondary() should be doing is
> trying to start the core.  If you encounter an error trying to do so,
> that's what the error return is for.
> 
> If you just set a bit somewhere to tell the hardware to release the
> secondary core's reset, then if you set the bit and return success,
> that's prefectly acceptable.  The core ARM SMP code will then wait
> up to one second for the secondary core to become known to the kernel
> before declaring that the CPU failed to come online.
> 
> If it fails to appear, we assume that it will never appear - and
> actually at that point the system is in an unknown state: if the
> secondary CPU crashed during its boot, it could start scribbling
> into memory or touching devices in an unpredictable way: the only
> sane answer is to reboot the whole system to ensure that it's back
> to a known good state.  Hence why we don't provide any cleanup at
> the point of a failed secondary CPU (I've been debating about
> tainting the kernel at that point, so we know when things have
> gone bad.)
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
Surely it has helped and many thanks for your detailed explanation.

Thanks,
Kapil Hali
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