linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 5/5] arm: boot: store ATAGs structure into DT "/chosen/linux,atags" entry

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Message-ID: <56568849.5080103@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:19:21 -0800
From:	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>
To:	Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>
CC:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	"devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Laura Abbott <lauraa@...eaurora.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>,
	Rob Herring <robherring2@...il.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@...il.com>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@...ian.org>,
	Andreas Färber <afaerber@...e.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] arm: boot: store ATAGs structure into DT "/chosen/linux,atags"
 entry

On 11/25/2015 1:03 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> * Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de> [151125 11:50]:
>> On Wednesday 25 November 2015 10:16:44 Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>> * Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com> [151123 06:46]:
>>>> On Sunday 22 November 2015 07:51:46 Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> On Wed 2015-11-11 17:10:46, Frank Rowand wrote:
>>>>>> Adding devicetree list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thread starts at
>>>>>> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2015-July/354459.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/5/2015 8:17 AM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>>> * Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com> [151105 03:41]:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday 13 October 2015 16:37:46 Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Monday 12 October 2015 13:45:09 Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> * Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com> [151012 13:29]:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday 12 October 2015 22:16:40 Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pali, any news on posting an updated series with the comments
>>>>>>>>>>>> addressed in this thread? It seems that we all pretty much agree
>>>>>>>>>>>> what needs to be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not real happy with the concept of patches 4 and 5 in this series.
>>>>>> My concern is that those two patches are using the FDT as a transport
>>>>>> mechanism for a binary blob (the atags object).
>>>>>
>>>>> Umm. Ok. Do you have alternative proposal that works for everyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean. This discussion was going for quite a long time, and it would
>>>>> be nice to have some solution... patch proposal... something.
>>>>>                                                                     Pavel
>>>>
>>>> Yes, discussion is going for a long time! So should I spend time for
>>>> adding documentation to my solution (this is last one thing which is
>>>> missing)? Or my solution is wrong and somebody else will propose new?
>>>> I do not want to spend time on something which will be rejected and
>>>> discarded.
>>>
>>> At least I don't have better solutions in mind.
>>
>> I would be happier if we could restrict this as much as possible to the
>> boards that need it, as an opt-in. That way it doesn't become an ABI

The feature (in whatever form it takes) should be definitely be highly
restricted and marked as deprecated.

>> for people that don't already rely in this information. How about
>> adding a check the code adds the linux,atags property to do it
>> only for a whitelist of board numbers?
> 
> Or populate /proc/atags only for the ones that need it from machine
> specific init_early?

This is circling back to the first comment from Russell King where
he suggested a legacy file for the N900 which calls save_atags():

    Are the ATAGs at a fixed address on the N900?  Can that be handled in
    some kind of legacy file for the N900 which calls save_atags() on it, so
    we don't end up introducing yet more stuff that we have to maintain into
    the distant future?  If not, what about copying a known working atag
    structure into a legacy file for the N900?

It seems to me that patches 1, 2, 4, and 5 could be replaced by this
approach.

Regards,

Frank
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