linux-kernel - Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization

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Message-ID: <20160304081411.GD9100@rkaganb.sw.ru>
Date:	Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:14:12 +0300
From:	Roman Kagan <rkagan@...tuozzo.com>
To:	"Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@...el.com>
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration
 optimization

On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 01:52:53AM +0000, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> >   I wonder if it would be possible to avoid the kernel changes by parsing
> > /proc/self/pagemap - if that can be used to detect unmapped/zero mapped
> > pages in the guest ram, would it achieve the same result?
> 
> Only detect the unmapped/zero mapped pages is not enough. Consider the 
> situation like case 2, it can't achieve the same result.

Your case 2 doesn't exist in the real world.  If people could stop their
main memory consumer in the guest prior to migration they wouldn't need
live migration at all.

I tend to think you can safely assume there's no free memory in the
guest, so there's little point optimizing for it.

OTOH it makes perfect sense optimizing for the unmapped memory that's
made up, in particular, by the ballon, and consider inflating the
balloon right before migration unless you already maintain it at the
optimal size for other reasons (like e.g. a global resource manager
optimizing the VM density).

Roman.