linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH/RFC] ppc64 livepatch: frameless klp_return

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <56F34F85.7020408@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:23:01 +1100
From:	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>
To:	Torsten Duwe <duwe@....de>, Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Cc:	Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>, jeyu@...hat.com, jkosina@...e.cz,
	jikos@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	rostedt@...dmis.org, kamalesh@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linuxppc-dev@...abs.org, live-patching@...r.kernel.org,
	mbenes@...e.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] ppc64 livepatch: frameless klp_return_helper using
 odd TOC



On 24/03/16 02:58, Torsten Duwe wrote:
> Since nobody liked the extra stack frame nor its workarounds, here is
> the next attempt. Assumptions:
>
> 1. Heuristics are bad. The better they are, the more subtly the
>    way they might fail.
>
> 2. The TOC pointer is usually dividable by 4, if not by 8. An odd
>    value never occurs.
>
> Conclusively, this patch unambiguously creates an odd TOC value when
> an ftraced function's global entry point is used. Ftrace_caller will
> then immediately fix it, and alongside gather the information whether
> the made call was local or global.
>
> In case of live patching this information is furthermore used to decide
> whether a klp_return_helper needs to be inserted or not.
> CAVEAT: any frameless klp_return_helper does not play well with
> sibling calls! There's an emergency exit that might work, at worst
> it will cause an oops, but it surely avoids a lockup.
> At least the live patching modules on ppc64le will need to be compiled
> using the -fno-optimize-sibling-calls compiler flag!
>
> Thanks go to Michael Matz and Richard Biener for reassurance about
> heuristics and pointers to the compiler flag.
>
> Signed-off-by: Torsten Duwe <duwe@...e.de>
>
>
I missed this yesterday, not on cc, but caught it on the list today

Thanks for working on this. I did a quick look, so the CR+4 code plus heuristics for global/local call detection? I'll review this soon - hopefully tonight, but we have a long weekend coming up, so there might be delays. In the meanwhile feel free to add my signed-off-by for the CR+4 code. I am also looking at a different approach -- per thread lr0 stack.

Balbir Singh.