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Message-ID: <570B758E.7070005@hisilicon.com>
Date:	Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:59:42 +0800
From:	Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com>
To:	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org>
CC:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>, <mhocko@...e.com>,
	Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Dan Zhao <dan.zhao@...ilicon.com>,
	Yiping Xu <xuyiping@...ilicon.com>, <puck.chen@...mail.com>,
	<albert.lubing@...ilicon.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	<suzhuangluan@...ilicon.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@...wei.com>, "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	<kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	<oliver.fu@...ilicon.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	<robin.murphy@....com>, <yudongbin@...licon.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	<saberlily.xia@...ilicon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: mem-model: add flatmem model for arm64

Hi Ard,

On 2016/4/11 16:00, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 11 April 2016 at 09:55, Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com> wrote:
>> Hi Ard,
>>
>> On 2016/4/11 15:35, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>> On 11 April 2016 at 04:49, Chen Feng <puck.chen@...ilicon.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi will,
>>>> Thanks for review.
>>>>
>>>> On 2016/4/7 22:21, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 04:22:51PM +0800, Chen Feng wrote:
>>>>>> We can reduce the memory allocated at mem-map
>>>>>> by flatmem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> currently, the default memory-model in arm64 is
>>>>>> sparse memory. The mem-map array is not freed in
>>>>>> this scene. If the physical address is too long,
>>>>>> it will reserved too much memory for the mem-map
>>>>>> array.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you elaborate a bit more on this, please? We use the vmemmap, so any
>>>>> spaces between memory banks only burns up virtual space. What exactly is
>>>>> the problem you're seeing that makes you want to use flatmem (which is
>>>>> probably unsuitable for the majority of arm64 machines).
>>>>>
>>>> The root cause we want to use flat-mem is the mam_map alloced in sparse-mem
>>>> is not freed.
>>>>
>>>> take a look at here:
>>>> arm64/mm/init.c
>>>> void __init mem_init(void)
>>>> {
>>>> #ifndef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>>>>         free_unused_memmap();
>>>> #endif
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Memory layout (3GB)
>>>>
>>>>  0             1.5G    2G             3.5G            4G
>>>>  |              |      |               |              |
>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>>>>  |    MEM       | hole |     MEM       |   IO (regs)  |
>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Memory layout (4GB)
>>>>
>>>>  0                                    3.5G            4G    4.5G
>>>>  |                                     |              |       |
>>>>  +-------------------------------------+--------------+-------+
>>>>  |                   MEM               |   IO (regs)  |  MEM  |
>>>>  +-------------------------------------+--------------+-------+
>>>>
>>>> Currently, the sparse memory section is 1GB.
>>>>
>>>> 3GB ddr: the 1.5 ~2G and 3.5 ~ 4G are holes.
>>>> 3GB ddr: the 3.5 ~ 4G and 4.5 ~ 5G are holes.
>>>>
>>>> This will alloc 1G/4K * (struct page) memory for mem_map array.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, this is incorrect. Sparsemem vmemmap only allocates struct pages
>>> for memory regions that are actually populated.
>>>
>>> For instance, on the Foundation model with 4 GB of memory, you may see
>>> something like this in the boot log
>>>
>>> [    0.000000]     vmemmap : 0xffffffbdc0000000 - 0xffffffbfc0000000
>>> (     8 GB maximum)
>>> [    0.000000]               0xffffffbdc0000000 - 0xffffffbde2000000
>>> (   544 MB actual)
>>>
>>> but in reality, only the following regions have been allocated
>>>
>>> ---[ vmemmap start ]---
>>> 0xffffffbdc0000000-0xffffffbdc2000000          32M       RW NX SHD AF
>>>       BLK UXN MEM/NORMAL
>>> 0xffffffbde0000000-0xffffffbde2000000          32M       RW NX SHD AF
>>>       BLK UXN MEM/NORMAL
>>> ---[ vmemmap end ]---
>>>
>>> so only 64 MB is used to back 4 GB of RAM with struct pages, which is
>>> minimal. Moving to flatmem will not reduce the memory footprint at
>>> all.
>>
>> Yes,but the populate is section, which is 1GB. Take a look at the above
>> memory layout.
>>
>> The section 1G ~ 2G is a section. But 1.5G ~ 2G is a hole.
>>
>> The section 3G ~ 4G is a section. But 3.5G ~ 4G is a hole.
>>>>  0             1.5G    2G             3.5G            4G
>>>>  |              |      |               |              |
>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>>>>  |    MEM       | hole |     MEM       |   IO (regs)  |
>>>>  +--------------+------+---------------+--------------+
>> The hole in 1.5G ~ 2G is also allocated mem-map array. And also with the 3.5G ~ 4G.
>>
> 
> No, it is not. It may be covered by a section, but that does not mean
> sparsemem vmemmap will actually allocate backing for it. The
> granularity used by sparsemem vmemmap on a 4k pages kernel is 128 MB,
> due to the fact that the backing is performed at PMD granularity.
> 
> Please, could you share the contents of the vmemmap section in
> /sys/kernel/debug/kernel_page_tables of your system running with
> sparsemem vmemmap enabled? You will need to set CONFIG_ARM64_PTDUMP=y
>

Please see the pg-tables below.


With sparse and vmemmap enable.

---[ vmemmap start ]---
0xffffffbdc0200000-0xffffffbdc4800000          70M     RW NX SHD AF    UXN MEM/NORMAL
---[ vmemmap end ]---


The board is 4GB, and the memap is 70MB
1G memory --- 14MB mem_map array.
So the 4GB has 5 sections, which used 5 * 14MB memory.






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