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Date:	Tue, 10 May 2016 21:21:39 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] intel_pstate: Clarify average performance computation

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Srinivas Pandruvada
<srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2016-05-07 at 01:44 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
>>
>> The core_pct_busy field of struct sample actually contains the
>> average performace during the last sampling period (in percent)
>> and not the utilization of the core as suggested by its name
>> which is confusing.
>>
>> For this reason, change the name of that field to core_avg_perf
>> and rename the function that computes its value accordingly.
>>
> Makes perfect sense.
>
>> Also notice that it would be more useful if it was a "raw" fraction
>> rather than percentage, so change its meaning too and update the
>> code using it accordingly (it is better to change the name of
>> the field along with its meaning in one go than to make those
>> two changes separately, as that would likely lead to more
>> confusion).
> Due to the calculation the results from old and new method will be
> similar but not same. For example in one scenario the
> get_avg_frequency difference is 4.3KHz (printed side by side using both
> old style using pct and new using fraction)
> Frequency with old calc: 2996093 Hz

I guess the above is the new one?

> Frequency with old calc: 3000460 Hz

So the relative difference is of the order of 0.1% and that number is
not what is used in PID computations.  That's what is printed, but I'm
not sure if that's really that important. :-)

Here, the sample.aperf bits lost because the 100 was moved away from
intel_pstate_calc_busy() would be multiplied by a relatively large
number to produce the difference that looks significant, but the
numbers actually used in computations are a few orders of magnitude
smaller.

> How much do you think the performance gain changing fraction vs pct?

I'm more concerned about latency than about performance.  On HWP, for
example, the costly multiplication removed by this from the hot path
is of the order of the half of the work done.

That said, I can do something to retain the bits in question for as
long as possible, although the patch will be slightly more complicated
then. :-)

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