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Message-ID: <20160713205102.GZ30909@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 22:51:02 +0200
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Dmitry Shmidt <dimitrysh@...gle.com>,
Rom Lemarchand <romlem@...gle.com>,
Colin Cross <ccross@...gle.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Severe performance regression w/ 4.4+ on Android due to cgroup
locking changes
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 04:39:44PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > There is a synchronize_sched() in there, so sorta. That thing is heavily
> > geared towards readers, as is the only 'sane' choice for global locks.
>
> It used to use the expedited variant until 001dac627ff3
> ("locking/percpu-rwsem: Make use of the rcu_sync infrastructure"), so
> it might have been okay before then.
Right, but expedited stuff sprays IPIs around the entire system. That's
stuff other people complain about.
> The options that I can see are
>
> 1. Somehow make percpu_rwsem's write behavior more responsive in a way
> which is acceptable all use cases. This would be great but
> probably impossible.
>
> 2. Add a fast-writer option to percpu_rwsem so that users which care
> about write latency can opt in for higher processing overhead for
> lower latency.
So, IIRC, the trade-off is a full memory barrier in read_lock and
read_unlock() vs sync_sched() in write.
Full memory barriers are expensive and while the combined cost might
well exceed the cost of the sync_sched() it doesn't suffer the latency
issues.
Not sure if we can frob the two in a single codebase, but I can have a
poke if Oleg or Paul doesn't beat me to it.
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