lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CAP045AodDEb0p7GwFizanDPUxkOvACEKr+Pc6BhOuJFNLZYGJQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:36:31 -0700
From:   Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:     Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com>,
        David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>,
        Aravind Gopalakrishnan <aravind.gopalakrishnan@....com>,
        Huang Rui <ray.huang@....com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE 32-BIT AND 64-BIT" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        DaveHansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        "moderated list:XEN HYPERVISOR INTERFACE" 
        <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
        Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir_zapolskiy@...tor.com>,
        "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@...llahan.org>,
        Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Juergen Gross <JGross@...e.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
        "open list:X86 ARCHITECTURE 32-BIT AND 64-BIT" 
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "H. PeterAnvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 2/3] x86 Test and expose CPUID faulting
 capabilities in /proc/cpuinfo

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Kyle Huey <me@...ehuey.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 3:25 AM, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...e.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 15.09.16 at 12:05, <david.vrabel@...rix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 14/09/16 22:01, Kyle Huey wrote:
>>>>> Xen advertises the underlying support for CPUID faulting but not does pass
>>>>> through writes to the relevant MSR, nor does it virtualize it, so it does
>>>>> not actually work. For now mask off the relevant bit on MSR_PLATFORM_INFO.
>>>>
>>>> Could you clarify in the commit message that it is PV guests that are
>>>> affected.
>>>
>>> What makes you think HVM ones aren't?
>>
>> Testing on EC2, HVM guests are affected as well.  Not sure what to do
>> about that.
>>
>
> It's kind of nasty, but it shouldn't be *too* hard to probe for this
> thing during early boot.  Allocate a page somewhere that has the user
> bit set, put something like this in it:
>
> cpuid
> inc %eax  /* return 1 */
> movw %ax, %ss /* force %GP to get out of here */
>
> Call it like this from asm (real asm, not inline):
>
> FRAME_BEGIN
> pushq %rbx
>
> xorl %eax, %eax
>
> /* Push return frame */
> pushq %ss
> pushq %rsp
> addq $8, (%rsp)
> pushfq
> pushq %cs
> pushq $end_of_cpuid_faulting_test
>
> /* Call it! */
> pushq $__USER_DS
> pushq $0
> pushq $X86_EFLAGS_FIXED  /* leave IF off when running the CPL3 stub */
> pushq $__USER_CS
> pushq [address of userspace stub]
> INTERRUPT_RETURN
>
> end_of_cpuid_faulting_test:
> pop %rbx
>
> FRAME_END
>
> Run this after the main GDT is loaded but while the #GP vector is
> temporarily pointing to:
>
> movq SS-RIP(%rsp), %rsp  /* pop the real return frame */
> INTERRUPT_RETURN
>
> and with interrupts off.  The function should return 0 if CPUID
> faulting works and 1 if it doesn't.
>
> Yeah, this is gross, but it should work.  I'm not sure how okay I am
> with putting this crap in the kernel...

This is rather heroic :)

I think it's more trouble than it's worth though.  The latest series I
submitted doesn't try to handle this.  Instead I'll patch Xen to fix
the bug.

- Kyle

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ