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Message-ID: <20160928190803.GC7467@kernel.org>
Date:   Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:08:03 -0300
From:   Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
To:     Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:     peterz@...radead.org, maddy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 06/19] perf, tools: Support alias descriptions

Em Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:29:16AM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu escreveu:
> Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [acme@...nel.org] wrote:
> > Em Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:11:16AM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu escreveu:
> > > Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [acme@...nel.org] wrote:
> > > > Em Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 03:24:43PM -0700, Sukadev Bhattiprolu escreveu:
> > > > > From: Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>
> > > > > Add support to print alias descriptions in perf list, which
> > > > > are taken from the generated event files.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The sorting code is changed to put the events with descriptions
> > > > > at the end. The descriptions are printed as possibly multiple word
> > > > > wrapped lines.
> > > > 
> > > > So, now I'm trying to reproduce the results below, but I couldn't find a
> > > > tarball with those .json files for me to use, can you provide me with
> > > > one?
> > > 
> > > The data files are in my github, in the json-code+data-v21 branch
> > > starting with 23bb101. They are individual commits rather than a
> > > tarball though.
> > 
> > Ok, I'll pick one for powerpc and another for x86_64 so that I can test
> > it and Jiri's x-compile support.
> 
> Please pull all files if possible, specially on x86, _before_ building the
> perf binary. If you are going to pull only one, you need to make sure that
> the file you pull matches the CPU model on the system you are testing.(see
> below). For Power, you need to test on Power8.
> 
> > 
> > Refresh my mind, what is the plan on these files? Are we just going to
> > provide pointers to where to get them from vendors, ship it in the
> > kernel, auto-download them as part of the build process?
> 
> They are supposed to be committed into the linux kernel tree as shown
> in the json-code+data-v21 tree and they will be picked up _during build_
> of the perf binary. (We are just not mailing those data files as patches
> since they are large and there is very little value in reviewing them).
> 
> When building perf on on say x86, event tables for all the different
> x86 CPU models will be included in the perf binary. When perf is then
> executed on an x86 box, it will detect the CPU model of that box and
> use the set of events corresponding to that model.
> 
> If the CPU model does not match the models "known" to the perf binary,
> then the symbolic names will not work on that system, but there should
> be no other change in behavior.
> 
> Patch 15/19 tries to explain the process.

I didn't get to that one yet.
 
> > At least examples that allows to build and have a new 'perf test' entry
> > to check them automatically seems to be in order, no?
> 
> Well, the hope was that build/usage will be transparent! but we did not

the 'perf test' entry is to test the whole process of going from a json
file to a the perf binary and then asking for one such event and
checking if the resulting perf_event_attr is what we expect it to be,
see, for instance:

[root@...et c]# perf test roundtrip
11: roundtrip evsel->name check                              : Ok

tools/perf/tests/evsel-roundtrip-name.c

> test in the cross-compile environment. Will think about a test case.
> Please let me know if we can update the README in Patch 15/19 in any
> way.

I'll let you know when I get to that patch, till then I'll follow the
instructions you gave me here.

I.e. I go on testing patch by patch, trying to use the documentation
that is available up to that point, trying to reproduce the results
described in the patch, to fully validate it.

- Arnaldo
 
> > > 	>       https://github.com/sukadev/linux.git
> > > 	>
> > > 	>       Branch                  Description
> > > 	>       ------------------------------------------------------
> > > 	>       json-code-v21           Source Code only
> > > 	>       json-code+data-v21      Both code and data(for build/test/pull)
> > > 	> 
> > > 
> > > Sukadev

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