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Message-ID: <20160930190535.GB3142@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Fri, 30 Sep 2016 21:05:35 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Brent DeGraaf <bdegraaf@...eaurora.org>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Christopher Covington <cov@...eaurora.org>,
        Timur Tabi <timur@...eaurora.org>,
        Nathan Lynch <nathan_lynch@...tor.com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] arm64: Enforce observed order for spinlock and data

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 01:40:57PM -0400, Brent DeGraaf wrote:
> Prior spinlock code solely used load-acquire and store-release
> semantics to ensure ordering of the spinlock lock and the area it
> protects. However, store-release semantics and ordinary stores do
> not protect against accesses to the protected area being observed
> prior to the access that locks the lock itself.
> 
> While the load-acquire and store-release ordering is sufficient
> when the spinlock routines themselves are strictly used, other
> kernel code that references the lock values directly (e.g. lockrefs)

Isn't the problem with lockref the fact that arch_spin_value_unlocked()
isn't a load-acquire, and therefore the CPU in question doesn't need to
observe the contents of the critical section etc..?

That is, wouldn't fixing arch_spin_value_unlocked() by making that an
smp_load_acquire() fix things much better?

> could observe changes to the area protected by the spinlock prior
> to observance of the lock itself being in a locked state, despite
> the fact that the spinlock logic itself is correct.

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