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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 11:57:46 -0500
From: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@...il.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 1/2] documentation: Present updated RCU guarantee
Hi Paul,
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> Recent memory-model work deduces the relationships of RCU read-side
> critical sections and grace periods based on the relationships of
> accesses within a critical section and accesses preceding and following
> the grace period. This commit therefore adds this viewpoint.
>
> Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
> .../RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.html | 25 +++++++++++++++++++++-
> 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.html b/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.html
> index a4d3838130e4..81b40cb83435 100644
> --- a/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.html
> +++ b/Documentation/RCU/Design/Requirements/Requirements.html
> @@ -547,7 +547,7 @@ The <tt>rcu_access_pointer()</tt> on line 6 is similar to
> It could reuse a value formerly fetched from this same pointer.
> It could also fetch the pointer from <tt>gp</tt> in a byte-at-a-time
> manner, resulting in <i>load tearing</i>, in turn resulting a bytewise
> - mash-up of two distince pointer values.
> + mash-up of two distinct pointer values.
> It might even use value-speculation optimizations, where it makes
> a wrong guess, but by the time it gets around to checking the
> value, an update has changed the pointer to match the wrong guess.
> @@ -659,6 +659,29 @@ systems with more than one CPU:
> In other words, a given instance of <tt>synchronize_rcu()</tt>
> can avoid waiting on a given RCU read-side critical section only
> if it can prove that <tt>synchronize_rcu()</tt> started first.
> +
> + <p>
> + A related question is “When <tt>rcu_read_lock()</tt>
> + doesn't generate any code, why does it matter how it relates
> + to a grace period?”
> + The answer if that it is not the relationship of
s/if/is?
> + <tt>rcu_read_lock()</tt> itself that is important, but rather
> + the relationship of the code within the enclosed RCU read-side
> + critical section to the code preceding and following the
> + grace period.
> + If we take this viewpoint, then a given RCU read-side critical
> + section begins before a given grace period when some access
> + preceding the grace period observes the effect of some access
> + within the critical section, in which case none of the accesses
> + within the critical section may observe the effects of any
> + access following the grace period.
> +
> + <p>
> + As of late 2016, mathematical models of RCU take this
> + viewpoint, for example, see slides 62 and 63
> + of the
> + <a href="http://www2.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/scalability/paper/LinuxMM.2016.10.04c.LCE.pdf">2016 LinuxCon EU</a>
> + presentation.
> </font></td></tr>
> <tr><td> </td></tr>
> </table>
> --
> 2.5.2
>
--
Pranith
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