lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20161202192810.GA3259@netboy>
Date:   Fri, 2 Dec 2016 20:28:10 +0100
From:   Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>
To:     Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@...com>
Cc:     Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2@...com>,
        Wingman Kwok <w-kwok2@...com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Mugunthan V N <mugunthanvnm@...com>,
        Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@...com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-omap@...r.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] net: ethernet: ti: cpts: add ptp pps support

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:58:34AM -0600, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> or I missed smth?

You are missing three important points.

1. Unlike the code you posted, no edges will be lost.

2. The solution using the PWM is implemented in USER SPACE.  If people
   use this way, then they will be forced to understand the inherit
   limitations.  In addition, the behavior of servo will be under
   their control.

3. The update rate of the PHC is not once per second.  It can be any
   rate at all, like 16 Hz for the telecom profile.  You can't just
   blindly pick out an adjustment value once per second.  Using the
   feedback from the time stamped PWM and adjusting THAT at the PWM
   rate (also not necessarily 1 PPS) is the right way.  The second
   reply in that thread is an even better solution, leaving the PHC
   free running and adjusting the timer input clock (probably they
   used a VCO).

Just hacking in some kind of kernel PPS with unknown accuracy is just
asking for trouble later, since people will expect HW accuracy.

So just get the input time stamps working, and make PWM control
available to userspace in mainline (not sure about this, I guess it
isn't), and leave the PPS part to a userspace utility.

Thanks,
Richard



Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ