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Message-ID: <20170110200558.GA5102@obsidianresearch.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:05:58 -0700
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: greg@...ellic.com, tpmdd-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
Ken Goldman <kgoldman@...ibm.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] RFC: in-kernel resource manager
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:16:35AM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:12:41AM -0600, Dr. Greg Wettstein wrote:
> > The kernel needs a resource manager. Everyone needs to think VERY
> > hard and VERY, VERY carefully about what gets put into the kernel. In
> > making a decision, put the ABSOLUTE smallest amount of code into the
> > kernel which allows various 'TPM2 personalities' to be implemented in
> > userspace and functionally verified and protected by the physical
> > instance. The emergence of commodity TEE's (SGX, et.al) should be in
> > the back of everyone's mind as a factor in the roadmap.
>
> Here's my cuts for the kernel:
>
> - Kernel virtualizes handle areas. It's mechanical.
> - Kernel does not virtualize bodies. It's not mechanical.
> - At least the first version of the RM will not do other than session
> isolation for sessions.
>
> This keeps the core for RM inside the kernel small and tight.
I think this makes sense.
In addition the kernel should only permit RM operations that are known
to be 100% correct with the RM.
I think you should stick with your original design basic design,
except instead of using an ioctl to switch modes, use an ioctl to
execute the operation:
struct tpm_ioctl_operation {
u16 mode; // == TPM1_RAW,TPM2_RAW,TPM1_RM,TPM2_RM
u16 locality;
u32 txlen;
u32 rxlen;
const void *txbuf;
void *rxbuf;
};
The userspace broker would be expected to use a mixture of RM and RAW
operations.
Let's deal with the idea of another cdev some other day when someone
can figure out a comprehensive way to do that securely for unpriv..
Jason
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