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Date:   Wed, 8 Feb 2017 15:12:26 +0000
From:   Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, page_alloc: only use per-cpu allocator for irq-safe
 requests -fix

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 03:56:22PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2017, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > preempt_enable_no_resched() was used based on review feedback that had no
> > strong objection at the time. It avoided introducing a preemption point
> > where one didn't exist before which was marginal at best.
> 
> Actually local_irq_enable() _IS_ a preemption point, indirect but still:
> 
>    local_irq_disable()
>    ....
> --> HW interrupt is raised
>    ....
>    local_irq_enable()
> 
>    handle_irq()
> 	set_need_resched()
>    ret_from_irq()
>      preempt()
> 
> while with preempt_disable that looks like this:
> 
>    preempt_disable()
>    ....
> --> HW interrupt is raised
>    handle_irq()
> 	set_need_resched()
>    ret_from_irq()
>    ....
>    preempt_enable()
>       preempt()
> 
> Now if you use preempt_enable_no_resched() then you miss the preemption and
> depending on the actual code path you might run something which takes ages
> without hitting a preemption point after that.
> 

Thanks for the education, I had missed it. The changelog should have been
"fix a dumb mistake and stick to preempt_enable".  Assuming Andrew picks
this patch up, it'll be folded into the patch that introduced the problem
in the first place and will the broken usage will never hit mainline.

> It's not only a problem for RT. It's also in mainline a violation of the
> preemption mechanism.
> 

Understood, thanks.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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