linux-kernel - Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

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Message-ID: <997ba581-ecfa-b773-a48e-85b92a439836@list.ru>
Date:   Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:29:31 +0300
From:   Stas Sergeev <stsp@...t.ru>
To:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:     Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
        Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...lanox.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Liang Z Li <liang.z.li@...el.com>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

08.03.2017 19:06, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Stas Sergeev <stsp@...t.ru> wrote:
>> 08.03.2017 03:32, Ricardo Neri пишет:
>>> These are the instructions covered by UMIP:
>>> * SGDT - Store Global Descriptor Table
>>> * SIDT - Store Interrupt Descriptor Table
>>> * SLDT - Store Local Descriptor Table
>>> * SMSW - Store Machine Status Word
>>> * STR - Store Task Register
>>>
>>> This patchset initially treated tasks running in virtual-8086 mode as a
>>> special case. However, I received clarification that DOSEMU[8] does not
>>> support applications that use these instructions.
> Can you remind me what was special about it?  It looks like you still
> emulate them in v8086 mode.
Indeed, sorry, I meant prot mode here. :)
So I wonder what was cited to be special about v86.

>> Yes, this is the case.
>> But at least in the past there was an attempt to
>> support SLDT as it is used by an ancient pharlap
>> DOS extender (currently unsupported by dosemu1/2).
>> So how difficult would it be to add an optional
>> possibility of delivering such SIGSEGV to userspace
>> so that the kernel's dummy emulation can be overridden?
>> It doesn't need to be a matter of this particular
>> patch set, i.e. this proposal should not trigger a
>> v7 resend of all 21 patches. :) But it would be useful
>> for the future development of dosemu2.
> What I'd actually like to see is a totally separate patchset that adds
> an inheritable (but reset on exec) per-task mask of legacy
> compatibility features to disable.  Maybe:
>
> sys_adjust_compat_mask(int op, int word, u32 mask);
No no, since I meant prot mode, this is not what I need.
I would never need to disable UMIP as to allow the
prot mode apps to do SLDT. Instead it would be good
to have an ability to provide a replacement for the dummy
emulation that is currently being proposed for kernel.
All is needed for this, is just to deliver a SIGSEGV.