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Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jJ0SruFMp+v5ibcBnzctvjZF7U1w4+XThzFjwxTpdUUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 15 May 2017 11:17:41 +0200
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@...el.com>,
        Jiri Eischmann <jeischma@...hat.com>,
        "linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Benjamin Tissoires
<benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com> wrote:
> On May 12 2017 or thereabouts, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Friday, May 12, 2017 02:36:20 AM Zheng, Lv wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > > From: Benjamin Tissoires [mailto:benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com]
>> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"
>> > >
>> > > On May 11 2017 or thereabouts, Zheng, Lv wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > > From: Benjamin Tissoires [mailto:benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com]
>> > > > > Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Revert "ACPI / button: Change default behavior to lid_init_state=open"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > This reverts commit 77e9a4aa9de10cc1418bf9a892366988802a8025.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Even if the method implementation can be buggy on some platform,
>> > > > > the "open" choice is worse. It breaks docking stations basically
>> > > > > and there is no way to have a user-space hwdb to fix that.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On the contrary, it's rather easy in user-space to have a hwdb
>> > > > > with the problematic platforms. Then, libinput (1.7.0+) can fix
>> > > > > the state of the LID switch for us: you need to set the udev
>> > > > > property LIBINPUT_ATTR_LID_SWITCH_RELIABILITY to 'write_open'.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > When libinput detects internal keyboard events, it will
>> > > > > overwrite the state of the switch to open, making it reliable
>> > > > > again. Given that logind only checks the LID switch value after
>> > > > > a timeout, we can assume the user will use the internal keyboard
>> > > > > before this timeout expires.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > For example, such a hwdb entry is:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > libinput:name:*Lid Switch*:dmi:*svnMicrosoftCorporation:pnSurface3:*
>> > > > >  LIBINPUT_ATTR_LID_SWITCH_RELIABILITY=write_open
>> > > >
>
> [...]
>
>>
>> Well, if it worked in a specific way that users depended on before the commit in
>> question and now it works differently, then it does break things.
>>
>> Benjamin, my understanding is that this is the case, is it correct?
>
> That is correct. This patch I reverted introduces regression for professional
> laptops that expect the LID switch to be reported accurately.

And from a user's perspective, what does not work any more?

Thanks,
Rafael

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