linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption

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Date:   Tue, 30 May 2017 08:58:07 +0100
From:   Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@....com>
To:     Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>, Joonsoo Kim <js1304@...il.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, kernel-team@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to
 reduce memory consumption

On 29/05/17 16:29, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> I have an alternative proposal. It should be conceptually simpler and
> also less arch-dependent. But I don't know if I miss something
> important that will render it non working.
> Namely, we add a pointer to shadow to the page struct. Then, create a
> slab allocator for 512B shadow blocks. Then, attach/detach these
> shadow blocks to page structs as necessary. It should lead to even
> smaller memory consumption because we won't need a whole shadow page
> when only 1 out of 8 corresponding kernel pages are used (we will need
> just a single 512B block). I guess with some fragmentation we need
> lots of excessive shadow with the current proposed patch.
> This does not depend on TLB in any way and does not require hooking
> into buddy allocator.
> The main downside is that we will need to be careful to not assume
> that shadow is continuous. In particular this means that this mode
> will work only with outline instrumentation and will need some ifdefs.
> Also it will be slower due to the additional indirection when
> accessing shadow, but that's meant as "small but slow" mode as far as
> I understand.
> 
> But the main win as I see it is that that's basically complete support
> for 32-bit arches. People do ask about arm32 support:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/kasan-dev/Sk6BsSPMRRc/Gqh4oD_wAAAJ
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/kasan-dev/B22vOFp-QWg/EVJPbrsgAgAJ
> and probably mips32 is relevant as well.
> Such mode does not require a huge continuous address space range, has
> minimal memory consumption and requires minimal arch-dependent code.
> Works only with outline instrumentation, but I think that's a
> reasonable compromise.

.. or you can just keep shadow in page extension. It was suggested back in
2015 [1], but seems that lack of stack instrumentation was "no-way"... 

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/24/573 

Cheers
Vladimir