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Message-ID: <e65f425d-d6c2-f1c3-ea92-c2a0878add44@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:01:01 -0700
From:   Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
To:     David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, andrew@...n.ch
Cc:     vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel@...oirfairelinux.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 11/12] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: add Energy Detect ops

On 07/17/2017 02:10 PM, David Miller wrote:
> From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 23:04:05 +0200
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 01:45:49PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com>
>>> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:32:52 -0400
>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I never liked this. I think it is architecturally wrong for the switch
>>>>> to be poking around in the PHY. It should ask the PHY driver. This is
>>>>> especially true for external PHYs which might not be a Marvell PHY.
>>>>
>>>> I share the same concern. However this patch is just isolating the
>>>> existing code so that we get rid of the last caps and flags and stop
>>>> writing (without reading them first) arbitrary registers.
>>>>
>>>> Once this portion is moved to the PHY driver, one can remove it from
>>>> mv88e6xxx.
>>>
>>> Seems a reasonable plan of action.
>>>
>>> Andrew, do you agree?
>>
>> Hi David
>>
>> I just fear it will not get fixed, just put into a corner to
>> fester. Having to fix it properly before these patches are merged
>> provides some incentive.
> 
> If Vivien doesn't make good on his promises to do so, tell me and
> I will revert all of these changes.
> 
> Ok?

This seems to be completely unfair to Vivien, there is nothing wrong
with his patch series per-se other than he was unfortunate enough he
highlighted something that needs fixing. This was not a serious enough
problem before and it cannot possibly be one now either with just a code
move.

On a general note, we cannot have whoever was the last one to touch a
piece of code that makes us see that this or that said piece of code is
less than ideal be selected as the random victim for doing that cleanup,
this just does not work. I know this is standard practice in Linux and
other open source software (been there before with the USB maintainers),
but this creates only one thing: making you want to runaway and scream
lalalalala.

So let's be pragmatic and maintain a public TODO list for this driver
that people can pick items to fix/cleanup/change that have been
identified as candidates for patches.
-- 
Florian

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