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Date:   Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:32:00 +0530
From:   Anup Patel <anup.patel@...adcom.com>
To:     Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Cc:     Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Baptiste Reynal <b.reynal@...tualopensystems.com>,
        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        Scott Branden <sbranden@...adcom.com>,
        Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux ARM Kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux IOMMU <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
        kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        BCM Kernel Feedback <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@...adcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: add IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS to the ARM
 SMMUv3 driver

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 05:09:05PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 05:01:11PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 04:53:04PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On 19/07/17 10:33, Anup Patel wrote:
>> >> >> >> The ARM SMMUv3 support bypassing transactions for which domain
>> >> >> >> is not configured. The patch adds corresponding IOMMU capability
>> >> >> >> to advertise this fact.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Signed-off-by: Anup Patel <anup.patel@...adcom.com>
>> >> >> >> ---
>> >> >> >>  drivers/iommu/arm-smmu-v3.c | 2 ++
>> >> >> >>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/arm-smmu-v3.c b/drivers/iommu/arm-smmu-v3.c
>> >> >> >> index 568c400..a6c7f66 100644
>> >> >> >> --- a/drivers/iommu/arm-smmu-v3.c
>> >> >> >> +++ b/drivers/iommu/arm-smmu-v3.c
>> >> >> >> @@ -1423,6 +1423,8 @@ static bool arm_smmu_capable(enum iommu_cap cap)
>> >> >> >>               return true;
>> >> >> >>       case IOMMU_CAP_NOEXEC:
>> >> >> >>               return true;
>> >> >> >> +     case IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS:
>> >> >> >> +             return true;
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And this is never true. If Linux knows a device masters through the
>> >> >> > SMMU, it will always have a default domain of some sort (either identity
>> >> >> > or DMA ops). If Linux doesn't know, then it won't have been able to
>> >> >> > initialise the stream table for the relevant stream IDs, thus any
>> >> >> > 'bypass' DMA is going to raise C_BAD_STE. SMMUv3 can effectively only
>> >> >> > bypass unknown stream IDs if disabled entirely.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What if we don't want to use IOMMU for certain device and
>> >> >> due to this we never provide "iommus" DT attribute in the
>> >> >> device DT node. Further, we want to access device without
>> >> >> "iommus" DT attribute from user-space using VFIO no-IOMMU.
>> >> >
>> >> > Wait, you want to pass a device through to userspace but you don't want to
>> >> > use the IOMMU? Why not?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you describe the SMMU in firmware with only a partial topology
>> >> > description, then you will run into problems with unknown masters trying to
>> >> > perform DMA. That's the IOMMU doing its job!
>> >>
>> >> We are keeping disable_bypass = false. In other words, we
>> >> are using bypass mode for unmatched streams. The real
>> >> reason is limited number of SMRs due to which we choose
>> >> not to provide "iommus" DT attribute for certain devices.
>> >
>> > Understood, but that's not robust for SMMUv3 and we *really* shouldn't have
>> > a user ABI that changes behaviour based on a cmdline option. VFIO should be
>> > requesting its own identity mappings, if that's what you need.
>>
>> Currently, the iommu_present() check in vfio_iommu_group_get()
>> is preventing us allow no-IOMMU mode for certain devices.
>>
>> Is there a better replacement of iommu_present() check in
>> vfio_iommu_group_get()?
>
> There are two things here:
>
>   1. iommu_present() is pretty useless, because it applies to a "bus" which
>      doesn't actually tell you what you need to know for things like the
>      platform_bus, where some masters might be upstream of an SMMU and
>      others might not be.

I agree with you. The iommu_present() check in vfio_iommu_group_get()
is not much useful. We only reach line which checks iommu_present()
when iommu_group_get() returns NULL for given "struct device *". If there
is no IOMMU group for a "struct device *" then it means there is no IOMMU
HW doing translations for such device.

If we drop the iommu_present() check (due to above reasons) in
vfio_iommu_group_get() then we don't require the IOMMU_CAP_BYPASS
and we can happily drop PATCH1, PATCH2, and PATCH3.

I will remove the iommu_present() check in vfio_iommu_group_get()
because it is only comes into actions when VFIO_NOIOMMU is
enabled. This will also help us drop PATCH1-to-PATCH3.

>
>   2. If a master *is* upstream of an IOMMU and you want to use no-IOMMU,
>      then the VFIO no-IOMMU code needs to be extended so that it creates
>      an IDENTITY domain on that IOMMU.

The VFIO no-IOMMU mode is equivalent to Linux UIO hence having
IDENTITY domain for VFIO no-IOMMU is not appropriate here.

In fact, going forward it has been suggested to use VFIO no-IOMMU
instead of Linux UIO for user-space poll-mode drivers so that we have
one Linux interface for user-space poll-mode drivers.

Regards,
Anup

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