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Message-ID: <20170829175647.ej5fqszss2mbpc5i@redbean>
Date:   Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:56:47 +0200
From:   Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org>
To:     Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...gle.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: Allow automatic kernel taint on unsigned module load to be
 disabled

+++ Matthew Garrett [14/08/17 12:50 -0400]:
>On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org> wrote:
>> I think I'm missing some context here. Could you provide some more
>> background and help me understand why we want to go into all this
>> trouble just to avoid a taint?  Was there a recent bug report, mailing
>> list discussion, etc. that spurred you to write this patch? I'm not
>> understanding why this particular taint is undesirable.
>
>Hi Jessica,
>
>Does the version in https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/8/7/764 make this clearer?

Hi Matthew,

Sorry for the delay, I'm currently on leave traveling.

I understand what the patch is doing, what I don't yet understand is
_why_ you would want to remove the unsigned module taint when
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is enabled. Which distributions are asking for this
exactly, and for what use cases? I find it a bit contradictory to have
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG enabled and at the same time expect the kernel to
behave as if the option wasn't enabled.

I would really prefer not to add extra code to remove what is cosmetic
and still has informational/debug value. If the unsigned module taint
is for whatever reason that bothersome, why can't distro(s) carry a
2-line patch removing the message and taint for those particular
setups where signatures are considered "irrelevant" even with
CONFIG_MODULE_SIG=y?

Thanks,

Jessica

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