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Date:   Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:03:26 +0200
From:   Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>
To:     Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)" <alexander.levin@...izon.com>,
        "x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "live-patching@...r.kernel.org" <live-patching@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add ORC unwinder

On 27/09/17 23:08, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:09:08PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 12:03:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Take for example the lock_is_held_type() function.  In vmlinux, it has
>>>>> the following instruction:
>>>>>
>>>>>   callq *0xffffffff85a94880 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
>>>>>
>>>>> At runtime, that instruction is patched and replaced with a fast inline
>>>>> version of arch_local_save_flags() which eliminates the call:
>>>>>
>>>>>   pushfq
>>>>>   pop %rax
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is when an interrupt hits after the push:
>>>>>
>>>>>   pushfq
>>>>>   --- irq ---
>>>>>   pop %rax
>>>>
>>>> That should actually be something easily fixable, for an odd reason:
>>>> the instruction boundaries are different.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what the solution should be.  It will probably need to be
>>>>> one of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>   a) either don't allow runtime "alternative" patches to mess with the
>>>>>      stack pointer (objtool could enforce this); or
>>>>>
>>>>>   b) come up with some way to register such patches with the ORC
>>>>>      unwinder at runtime.
>>>>
>>>> c) just add ORC data for the alternative statically and _unconditionally_.
>>>>
>>>> No runtime registration. Just an unconditional entry for the
>>>> particular IP that comes after the "pushfq". It cannot match the
>>>> "callq" instruction, since it would be in the middle of that
>>>> instruction.
>>>>
>>>> Basically, just do a "union" of the ORC data for all the alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Now, objtool should still verify that the instruction pointers for
>>>> alternatives are unique - or that they share the same ORC unwinder
>>>> information if they are not.
>>>>
>>>> But in cases like this, when the instruction boundaires are different,
>>>> things should "just work", with no need for any special cases.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm?
>>>
>>> Yeah, that might work.  Objtool already knows about alternatives, so it
>>> might not be too hard.  I'll try it.
>>
>> But this one's not an actual alternative, right?  It's a pv op.
>>
>> I would advocate that we make it an alternative after all.  I frickin'
>> hate the PV irq ops.  It would like roughly like this:
>>
>> ALTERNATIVE "pushfq; popq %rax", "callq *pv_irq_ops.save_fl",
>> X86_FEATURE_GODDAMN_PV_IRQ_OPS
>>
>> (The obvious syntax error and the naming should probably be fixed.
>> Also, this needs to live in an #ifdef because it needs to build on
>> kernels with pv support.  It should also properly register itself as a
>> pv patch site.)
> 
> I've got a prototype of the above working, where vmlinux shows:
> 
>   pushfq
>   pop    %rax
>   nop
>   nop
>   nop
>   nop
>   nop
> 
> instead of:
> 
>   callq  *0xffffffff81e3a400 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
> 
> Which is nice because the vmlinux disassembly now matches the most
> common runtime cases (everything except Xen and vsmp).  And it also
> fixes the upthread objtool issue.
> 
> The only slight issue with the patches is that hypervisors need access
> to the pv ops much earlier than when alternatives are applied.  So I had
> to add a new .pv_alternatives section for these pv ops alternatives, so
> they can be patched very early, if running in a hypervisor.
> 
> Will clean up the code and post something relatively soon.
> 

Are you combining alternatives and pvops then? I'm asking because in an
up and running system under Xen the callq *... will be replaced with a
much faster "call xen_save_fl". This should still be the case after
your patch.


Juergen

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