linux-kernel - Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH] tpm: remove chip

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <CANc+2y7iBYu0BUgk11z8O-r5sK_pxzAx10iP8SxZ=tDb7vLR3A@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 24 Oct 2017 23:14:32 +0530
From:   PrasannaKumar Muralidharan <prasannatsmkumar@...il.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>
Cc:     Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Stefan Berger <stefanb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        "open list:INTEGRITY MEASUREMENT ARCHITECTURE IMA" 
        <linux-ima-user@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
        Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
        "moderated list:TPM DEVICE DRIVER" 
        <tpmdd-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
        "open list:KEYS-TRUSTED" <keyrings@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE" 
        <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>,
        James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
        Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>,
        "open list:INTEGRITY MEASUREMENT ARCHITECTURE IMA" 
        <linux-ima-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
        David Safford <safford@...ibm.com>,
        Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH] tpm: remove chip_num parameter from
 in-kernel API

On 24 October 2017 at 23:07, Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:02:00AM -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> tpm-rng is abomination that should be kicked out as soon as possible.
>> It wrecks havoc with the power management (TPM chip drivers may go
>> into suspend state, but tpm_rng does not do any power management and
>> happily forwards requests to suspended hardware) and may be available
>> when there is no TPM at all yet (the drivers have not been probed yet,
>> or have gotten a deferral, etc).
>
> Makes sense
>
>> TPM core should register HWRNGs when chips are ready.
>
> The main thing I've wanted from the TPM RNG is
> 'add_early_randomness'..
>
> We can certainly provide a TPM interface to hwrng, it seems
> reasonable.
>
> Excep that we already have a user api in /dev/tpm to access the
> tpm RNG, is the duplication a problem?

I tried to do that via the rfc we discussed previously. It may not be
the right way but I wanted to start the discussion via the rfc.

Thanks,
PrasannaKumar