lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 2 Nov 2017 08:09:48 +0530
From:   Jassi Brar <>
To:     Sudeep Holla <>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        Arnd Bergmann <>,
        Bjorn Andersson <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mailbox: add support for doorbell/signal mode controllers

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Sudeep Holla <> wrote:
> On 01/11/17 18:03, Jassi Brar wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Sudeep Holla <> wrote:
>>> Such controllers don't need to transmit any data, they just transmit
>>> the signal. In such controllers the data pointer passed to
>>> mbox_send_message is passed to client via it's tx_prepare callback.
>>> Controller doesn't need any data to be passed from the client.
>> Some controllers need a non-zero value written to a register in order
>> to trigger the signal.
> You are right, just right non-zero or whatever controller value to
> trigger the interrupt to remote.
>> That register is visible to the remote. While the data/packet is setup
>> during tx_prepare() callback.
> Agreed.
>> You are overlooking this class of doorbell controllers.
> Not sure what do you mean by that ?
Such doorbell controllers can't use send_signal(chan) because they
need that non-zero value from client to send over the shared register.
You are assuming every protocol implements just one command.

>>> This is rough idea I have on extending mailbox interface to support
>>> the doorbell requirements.
>> What doorbell requirements does the api not support?
>> QComm's APCS IPC is what you call a "doorbell" controller and is
>> already supported by the API. It could run SCMI even easier than MHU
>> (your controller).
> Again agreed. But see below for reason to create this API.
>>> The new API send_signal will eliminate the
>>> issue Jassi has explained in earlier discussion with respect to generic
>>> message format using Rockchip example.
>> Sorry I don't see how.
>> Please explain how can send_signal() api be used by, say, rockchip to
>> support SCMI?
>  80         writel_relaxed(msg->cmd, mb->mbox_base +
> MAILBOX_A2B_CMD(chans->idx));
>  81         writel_relaxed(msg->rx_size, mb->mbox_base +
>  82                        MAILBOX_A2B_DAT(chans->idx));
>  83
>  will be replaced with
> writel(whatever_value_to trigger_signal, MAILBOX_A2B_CMD(chans->idx));
> in its send_signal function.
1) Where does the  "whatever_value_to_trigger_signal"  come from?
That has to come from client. You can not dictate the channel
transfers a fixed u32 value over its lifetime. SCMI may use one
command code but other protocols use more.

2) Using 'rx_size' is not a software choice made in the driver. The
_hardware_ has two registers shared with remote side - a CMD and a
DATA register. So the driver (written agnostic to any particular
client) would naturally expect the command+data from the client to be
programmed in to CMD and DAT registers.

>> I am not convinced we should clone an api just so that a client driver
>> becomes simpler. Esp when it shifts, and not avoid, the additional
>> code (to support the client) onto the provider side.
> It doesn't tie the data format with particular mailbox controller.
> send_data has void *data and the interpretation is controller specific.
> send_signal on the other handle can implemented by the controllers which
> knows how and can trigger the specific signal to the remote.
Yeah that's what I said - you want to make a client simpler by pushing
the code requirement onto the provider side.

For example, you mean we modify the provider rockchip-mailbox.c by implementing

  struct rockchip_mbox_msg msg;

  msg.cmd = chan->idx;  //only one command supported by the channel !!!
  msg.rx_size = 0;

  rockchip_send_data(chan, (void*) &msg);

whereas I suggest this SCMI specific code should be part of
transport/mapping shim layer of SCMI.

Powered by blists - more mailing lists