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Message-ID: <20171115213313.GJ19069@eros>
Date:   Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:33:13 +1100
From:   "Tobin C. Harding" <me@...in.cc>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: leaking_addresses script..

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 01:20:20PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Tobin C. Harding <me@...in.cc> wrote:
> >
> > Linus I'm not in the web of trust, pulling a tag signed by an _unknown_
> > key is not secure is it? Would it not be better to get into the web of
> > trust first before requesting you pull any code from me.
> 
> Oh, I absolutely take signed pulls from new people who haven't gotten
> their keys with a full chain of trust to me..

Awesome, new tag signed pull request to come.

> I do it for a few different reasons:
> 
>  - the real trust is *never* in the key. People who trust
> technological measures are morons. You trust *people*, not keys. The
> technical measures are a shorthand and a help, not the basis.
> 
>  - I can just check the code
> 
>  - even if you never get your key signed by anybody else, it's still a
> sort of "identity" in the sense of me getting the pull requests from
> the same person (or key controlling group)
> 
>  - you probably *will* get your key signed by somebody else later, and
> it's all good, and that will show even in the commits before you got
> the signing done.
> 
> It's not like we require that people send emailed patches with pgp
> signing either.
> 
> So I require keys for pull requests even if I can't see the full chain
> of trust simply because of those two last issues: it's still an
> identity, and one that I expect will eventually be signed.

Thanks for taking the time it explain things to me. Please expect all
future 'process' mistakes by myself to come in multiples - I know you are
so quick on the email as soon as I notice a mistake I rush to fix it,
usually botching it again :)

Again, thanks,
Tobin.

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