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Message-ID: <1512053826.26048.8.camel@hellion.org.uk>
Date:   Thu, 30 Nov 2017 14:57:06 +0000
From:   Ian Campbell <ijc@...lion.org.uk>
To:     Salvatore Mesoraca <s.mesoraca16@...il.com>,
        Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
Cc:     David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>,
        Alan Cox <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
        "linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] Protected O_CREAT open in
 sticky directories

On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 15:39 +0100, Salvatore Mesoraca wrote:
> 2017-11-27 1:26 GMT+01:00 Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>:
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:43:47PM +0100, Salvatore Mesoraca wrote:
> > > 2017-11-24 11:53 GMT+01:00 David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
> > > :
> > > > From: Alan Cox
> > > > > Sent: 22 November 2017 16:52
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 09:01:46 +0100 Salvatore Mesoraca <s.meso
> > > > > raca16@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Disallows O_CREAT open missing the O_EXCL flag, in world or
> > > > > > group writable directories, even if the file doesn't exist
> > > > > > yet.
> > > > > > With few exceptions (e.g. shared lock files based on
> > > > > > flock())
> > 
> > Why would "shared lock files based on flock()" need O_CREAT without
> > O_EXCL?  Where specifically are they currently used that way?
> 
> I don't think that they *need* to act like this, but this is how
> util-linux's flock(1) currently works.
> And it doesn't seem an unreasonable behavior from their perspective,

I thought that too, specifically I reasoned that using O_EXCL would
defeat the purpose of the _shared_ flock(), wouldn't it?

Ian.