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Date:   Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:24:24 +0800
From:   kemi <kemi.wang@...el.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        YASUAKI ISHIMATSU <yasu.isimatu@...il.com>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@...e.com>,
        Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@...cle.com>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Dave <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Andi Kleen <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...el.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Ying Huang <ying.huang@...el.com>,
        Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@...el.com>, Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@...el.com>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm: use node_page_state_snapshot to avoid
 deviation



On 2017年12月20日 18:06, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 20-12-17 14:07:35, kemi wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2017年12月19日 20:43, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Tue 19-12-17 14:39:25, Kemi Wang wrote:
>>>> To avoid deviation, this patch uses node_page_state_snapshot instead of
>>>> node_page_state for node page stats query.
>>>> e.g. cat /proc/zoneinfo
>>>>      cat /sys/devices/system/node/node*/vmstat
>>>>      cat /sys/devices/system/node/node*/numastat
>>>>
>>>> As it is a slow path and would not be read frequently, I would worry about
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> The changelog doesn't explain why these counters needs any special
>>> treatment. _snapshot variants where used only for internal handling
>>> where the precision really mattered. We do not have any in-tree user and
>>> Jack has removed this by http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20171122094416.26019-1-jack@suse.cz
>>> which is already sitting in the mmotm tree. We can re-add it but that
>>> would really require a _very good_ reason.
>>>
>>
>> Assume we have *nr* cpus, and threshold size is *t*. Thus, the maximum deviation is nr*t.
>> Currently, Skylake platform has hundreds of CPUs numbers and the number is still 
>> increasing. Also, even the threshold size is kept to 125 at maximum (32765 
>> for NUMA counters now), the deviation is just a little too big as I have mentioned in 
>> the log. I tend to sum the number in local cpus up when query the global stats.
> 
> This is a general problem of pcp accounting. So if it needs to be
> addressed then do it the same way for all stats.
> 
>> Also, node_page_state_snapshot is only called in slow path and I don't think that
>> would be a big problem. 
>>
>> Anyway, it is a matter of taste. I just think it's better to have.
> 
> You are making numastats special and I yet haven't heard any sounds
> arguments for that. But that should be discussed in the respective
> patch.
> 

That is because we have much larger threshold size for NUMA counters, that means larger 
deviation. So, the number in local cpus may not be simply ignored.

>>>> Signed-off-by: Kemi Wang <kemi.wang@...el.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/base/node.c | 17 ++++++++++-------
>>>>  mm/vmstat.c         |  2 +-
>>>>  2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/base/node.c b/drivers/base/node.c
>>>> index a045ea1..cf303f8 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/base/node.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/base/node.c
>>>> @@ -169,12 +169,15 @@ static ssize_t node_read_numastat(struct device *dev,
>>>>  		       "interleave_hit %lu\n"
>>>>  		       "local_node %lu\n"
>>>>  		       "other_node %lu\n",
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_HIT),
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_MISS),
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_FOREIGN),
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_INTERLEAVE_HIT),
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_LOCAL),
>>>> -		       node_page_state(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_OTHER));
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_HIT),
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_MISS),
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id),
>>>> +			       NUMA_FOREIGN),
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id),
>>>> +			       NUMA_INTERLEAVE_HIT),
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id), NUMA_LOCAL),
>>>> +		       node_page_state_snapshot(NODE_DATA(dev->id),
>>>> +			       NUMA_OTHER));
>>>>  }
>>>>  
>>>>  static DEVICE_ATTR(numastat, S_IRUGO, node_read_numastat, NULL);
>>>> @@ -194,7 +197,7 @@ static ssize_t node_read_vmstat(struct device *dev,
>>>>  	for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++)
>>>>  		n += sprintf(buf+n, "%s %lu\n",
>>>>  			     vmstat_text[i + NR_VM_ZONE_STAT_ITEMS],
>>>> -			     node_page_state(pgdat, i));
>>>> +			     node_page_state_snapshot(pgdat, i));
>>>>  
>>>>  	return n;
>>>>  }
>>>> diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
>>>> index 64e08ae..d65f28d 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/vmstat.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
>>>> @@ -1466,7 +1466,7 @@ static void zoneinfo_show_print(struct seq_file *m, pg_data_t *pgdat,
>>>>  		for (i = 0; i < NR_VM_NODE_STAT_ITEMS; i++) {
>>>>  			seq_printf(m, "\n      %-12s %lu",
>>>>  				vmstat_text[i + NR_VM_ZONE_STAT_ITEMS],
>>>> -				node_page_state(pgdat, i));
>>>> +				node_page_state_snapshot(pgdat, i));
>>>>  		}
>>>>  	}
>>>>  	seq_printf(m,
>>>> -- 
>>>> 2.7.4
>>>>
>>>
> 

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