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Date:   Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:55:18 -0700
From:   Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
Cc:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@...il.com>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Cgroups <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] mm: memcg: remote memcg charging for kmem allocations

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> On Wed 21-02-18 14:37:56, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> [...]
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
>> +static inline struct mem_cgroup *memalloc_memcg_save(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
>> +{
>> +     struct mem_cgroup *old_memcg = current->target_memcg;
>> +     current->target_memcg = memcg;
>> +     return old_memcg;
>> +}
>
> So you are relying that the caller will handle the reference counting
> properly? I do not think this is a good idea.

For the fsnotify use-case, this assumption makes sense as fsnotify has
an abstraction of fsnotify_group which is created by the
person/process interested in the events and thus can be used to hold
the reference to the person/process's memcg. Another use-case I have
in mind is the filesystem mount. Basically attaching a mount with a
memcg and thus all user pages and kmem allocations (inodes, dentries)
for that mount will be charged to the attached memcg. In this use-case
the super_block is the perfect structure to hold the reference to the
memcg.

If in future we find a use-case where this assumption does not make
sense we can evolve the API and since this is kernel internal API, it
should not be hard to evolve.

> Also do we need some kind
> of debugging facility to detect unbalanced save/restore scopes?
>

I am not sure, I didn't find other similar patterns (like PF_MEMALLOC)
having debugging facility. Maybe we can add such debugging facility
when we find more users other than kmalloc & kmem_cache_alloc. Vmalloc
may be one but I could not think of a use-case for vmalloc for remote
charging, so, no need to add more code at this time.

> [...]
>> @@ -2260,7 +2269,10 @@ struct kmem_cache *memcg_kmem_get_cache(struct kmem_cache *cachep)
>>       if (current->memcg_kmem_skip_account)
>>               return cachep;
>>
>> -     memcg = get_mem_cgroup_from_mm(current->mm);
>> +     if (current->target_memcg)
>> +             memcg = get_mem_cgroup(current->target_memcg);
>> +     if (!memcg)
>> +             memcg = get_mem_cgroup_from_mm(current->mm);
>>       kmemcg_id = READ_ONCE(memcg->kmemcg_id);
>>       if (kmemcg_id < 0)
>>               goto out;
>
> You are also adding one branch for _each_ charge path even though the
> usecase is rather limited.
>

I understand the concern but the charging path, IMO, is much complex
than just one or couple of additional branches. I can run a simple
microbenchmark to see if there is anything noticeable here.

> I will have to think about this approach more. It is clearly less code
> than your previous attempt but I cannot say I would be really impressed.
>

Thanks for your time.

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