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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1803201327060.167205@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
Date:   Tue, 20 Mar 2018 13:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:   David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
cc:     "Li,Rongqing" <lirongqing@...du.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "cgroups@...r.kernel.org" <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>,
        "hannes@...xchg.org" <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: 答复: 答复: [PATCH] mm/memcontrol.c: speed up to force empty a memory cgroup

On Tue, 20 Mar 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:

> > > > > Although SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is used at the lower level, but the call
> > > > > stack of try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages is too long, increase the
> > > > > nr_to_reclaim can reduce times of calling
> > > > > function[do_try_to_free_pages, shrink_zones, hrink_node ]
> > > > >
> > > > > mem_cgroup_resize_limit
> > > > > --->try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages:  .nr_to_reclaim = max(1024,
> > > > > --->SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX),
> > > > >    ---> do_try_to_free_pages
> > > > >      ---> shrink_zones
> > > > >       --->shrink_node
> > > > >        ---> shrink_node_memcg
> > > > >          ---> shrink_list          <-------loop will happen in this place
> > > > [times=1024/32]
> > > > >            ---> shrink_page_list
> > > > 
> > > > Can you actually measure this to be the culprit. Because we should rethink
> > > > our call path if it is too complicated/deep to perform well.
> > > > Adding arbitrary batch sizes doesn't sound like a good way to go to me.
> > > 
> > > Ok, I will try
> > > 
> > 
> > Looping in mem_cgroup_resize_limit(), which takes memcg_limit_mutex on 
> > every iteration which contends with lowering limits in other cgroups (on 
> > our systems, thousands), calling try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages() with less 
> > than SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is lame.
> 
> Well, if the global lock is a bottleneck in your deployments then we
> can come up with something more clever. E.g. per hierarchy locking
> or even drop the lock for the reclaim altogether. If we reclaim in
> SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX then the potential over-reclaim risk quite low when
> multiple users are shrinking the same (sub)hierarchy.
> 

I don't believe this to be a bottleneck if nr_pages is increased in 
mem_cgroup_resize_limit().

> > It would probably be best to limit the 
> > nr_pages to the amount that needs to be reclaimed, though, rather than 
> > over reclaiming.
> 
> How do you achieve that? The charging path is not synchornized with the
> shrinking one at all.
> 

The point is to get a better guess at how many pages, up to 
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, that need to be reclaimed instead of 1.

> > If you wanted to be invasive, you could change page_counter_limit() to 
> > return the count - limit, fix up the callers that look for -EBUSY, and 
> > then use max(val, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX) as your nr_pages.
> 
> I am not sure I understand
> 

Have page_counter_limit() return the number of pages over limit, i.e. 
count - limit, since it compares the two anyway.  Fix up existing callers 
and then clamp that value to SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX in 
mem_cgroup_resize_limit().  It's a more accurate guess than either 1 or 
1024.

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