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Date:   Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:28:40 -0400
From:   Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
To:     Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, rdunlap@...radead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc/stat: Separate out individual irq counts into
 /proc/stat_irqs

On 04/19/2018 03:08 PM, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
>> Therefore, application performance can be impacted if the application
>> reads /proc/stat rather frequently.
> [nods]
> Text interfaces can be designed in a very stupid way.
>
>> For example, reading /proc/stat in a certain 2-socket Skylake server
>> took about 4.6ms because it had over 5k irqs.
> Is this top(1)? What is this application doing?
> If it needs percpu usage stats, then maybe /proc/stat should be
> converted away from single_open() so that core seq_file code doesn't
> generate everything at once.

The application is actually a database benchmarking tool used by a
customer. The reading of /proc/stat is an artifact of the benchmarking
tool that can actually be turned off. Without doing that, about 20% of
CPU time were spent reading /proc/stat and the trashing of cachelines
slowed the benchmark number quite significantly. However, I was also
told that there are legitimate cases where reading /proc/stat was
necessary in some of their applications.

>> -
>> -	/* sum again ? it could be updated? */
>> -	for_each_irq_nr(j)
>> -		seq_put_decimal_ull(p, " ", kstat_irqs_usr(j));
>> -
> This is direct userspace breakage.

Yes, I am aware of that. That is the cost of improving the performance
of applications that read /proc/stat, but don't need the individual irq
counts.

>
> Proper fix is to start strategic switch away from /proc.
> It is a fun toy but its time has come.

Migration from procfs is easier said then done. Many existing customers
are reluctant to do that.

-Longman


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