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Message-ID: <20180425115603.GE24769@sirena.org.uk>
Date:   Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:56:03 +0100
From:   Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
To:     Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:     Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz>,
        Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@...aro.org>,
        Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.com>,
        Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>,
        Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@...amocchi.jp>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        SF Markus Elfring <elfring@...rs.sourceforge.net>,
        Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>, jeeja.kp@...el.com,
        Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
        Guneshwor Singh <guneshwor.o.singh@...el.com>,
        subhransu.s.prusty@...el.com, Bhumika Goyal <bhumirks@...il.com>,
        gudishax.kranthikumar@...el.com, Naveen M <naveen.m@...el.com>,
        hardik.t.shah@...el.com, Arvind Yadav <arvind.yadav.cs@...il.com>,
        Fabian Frederick <fabf@...net.be>, alsa-devel@...a-project.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Fix year 2038 issue for sound subsystem

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 01:26:23PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@...ex.cz> wrote:

> > We have almost everything hidden in the alsa-lib code for the
> > applications and there is the protocol versioning, so we can detect the
> > changes easily and handle the new fields in the library.

> I think we are both misunderstanding each other here, let's try
> to work out what changes are required in alsa-lib. The idea of
> Baolin's patches that you can simply rebuild alsa-lib (or any other
> library using the alsa kernel interface, if any exist) against a new
> C library and still have working audio.

It's probably also worth mentioning that there are userspaces that don't
use alsa-lib at all, at least tinyalsa and salsa (if anyone still uses
salsa).

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