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Date:   Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:43:37 -0700
From:   Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Keno Fischer <keno@...iacomputing.com>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...e.de>,
        Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@...hat.com>,
        Kyle Huey <khuey@...ehuey.com>,
        Robert O'Callahan <robert@...llahan.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/arch_prctl: Add ARCH_SET_XCR0 to mask XCR0
 per-thread

On 06/18/2018 07:42 AM, Keno Fischer wrote:
>> But, in any case, so how is this supposed to work?
>>
>>         // get features we are disabling into values matching the
>>         // hardware "init state".
>>         __asm__("XRSTOR %reg1,%reg2", ...);
>>         prctl(PRCTL_SET_XCR0, something);
>>
>> ?
> I was primarily thinking of the ptracer use case,
> 
>     ptrace(PTRACE_SETFPXREGS, <recorded regs>)
>     <inject arch_prctl using ptrace>
> 
> in which case there isn't a problem, because the unrecorded regs
> should be in the initial state.

So, to be useful, this interface needs to be called before an
application can run XGETBV or XSAVE for the first time and caches a
"bad" value.  I think that means that it might not be feasible to use
outside of cases where you ptrace() something and inject things before
it has a chance to run any real instructions.

Fundamentally, I think that makes _this_ interface pretty useless in
practice.  The only practical option is to have a _future_ XCR0 value
set by the prctl() and then have it get made active by the kernel at
execve().

IMNHO, if you haven't guessed yet, I think this whole exercise is a dead
end.  Just boot an identical XCR0 VM on your new hardware and do replay
there.  Done.

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