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Message-ID: <37046662f2b38f98854abfa1b5868a27c3fa0888.camel@opteya.com>
Date:   Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:22:13 +0200
From:   Yann Droneaud <ydroneaud@...eya.com>
To:     Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org,
        Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Cc:     labbott@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: add a config option to trust the CPU's hwrng

Hi,

Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 à 21:43 -0400, Theodore Ts'o a écrit :
> This gives the user building their own kernel (or a Linux
> distribution) the option of deciding whether or not to trust the CPU's
> hardware random number generator (e.g., RDRAND for x86 CPU's) as being
> correctly implemented and not having a back door introduced (perhaps
> courtesy of a Nation State's law enforcement or intelligence
> agencies).
> 

A build time option (RANDOM_TRUST_CPU) is good, but I would also see a
kernel command line boot option for the user to disable the behavior
whenever its distro kernel was built with RANDOM_TRUST_CPU.

It would allow the end-user to make its own decision regarding CPU
based hwrng.

In particular, during distro installation, end-user doesn't have a
chance to rebuild the kernel beforehand, but he can tweak kernel
command line during distro installation boot.


> This will prevent getrandom(2) from blocking, if there is a
> willingness to trust the CPU manufacturer.

It would block during initialization / early boot.

> 
> Signed-off-by: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
> ---
> 
>  I'm not sure Linux distro's will thank us for this.  The problem is
>  trusting the CPU manfuacturer can be an emotional / political issue.
> 
>  For example, assume that China has decided that as a result of the
>  "death sentence" that the US government threatened to impose on ZTE
>  after they were caught introducing privacy violating malware on US
>  comsumers, that they needed to be self-sufficient in their technology
>  sector, and so they decided the needed to produce their own CPU.
> 
>  Even if I were convinced that Intel hadn't backdoored RDRAND (or an
>  NSA agent backdoored RDRAND for them) such that the NSA had a NOBUS
>  (nobody but us) capability to crack RDRAND generated numbers, if we
>  made a change to unconditionally trust RDRAND, then I didn't want the
>  upstream kernel developers to have to answer the question, "why are
>  you willing to trust Intel, but you aren't willing to trust a company
>  owned and controlled by a PLA general?"  (Or a company owned and
>  controlled by one of Putin's Oligarchs, if that makes you feel
>  better.)
> 
>  With this patch, we don't put ourselves in this position --- but we
>  do put the Linux distro's in this position intead.  The upside is it
>  gives the choice to each person building their own Linux kernel to
>  decide whether trusting RDRAND is worth it to avoid hangs due to
>  userspace trying to get cryptographic-grade entropy early in the boot
>  process.  (Note: I trust RDRAND more than I do Jitter Entropy.)
> 
>  drivers/char/Kconfig  | 14 ++++++++++++++
>  drivers/char/random.c | 11 ++++++++++-
>  2 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/Kconfig b/drivers/char/Kconfig
> index 212f447938ae..fe2930c4ecf0 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/char/Kconfig
> @@ -554,3 +554,17 @@ config ADI
>  
>  endmenu
>  
> +config RANDOM_TRUST_CPU
> +       bool "Trust the CPU manufacturer to initialize Linux's CRNG"
> +       depends on (X86 || X86_64 || X86_32 || S390 || PPC)
> +       default n
> +       help
> +	Assume that CPU manufacurer (e.g., Intel or AMD for RDSEED or
> +	RDRAND, IBM for the S390 and Power PC architectures) is trustworthy
> +	for the purposes of initializing Linux's CRNG.  Since this is not
> +	something that can be indepedently audited, this amounts to trusting
> +	that CPU manufacturer (perhaps with the insistance or requirement
> +	of a Nation State's intelligence or law enforcement agencies)
> +	has not installed a hidden back door to compromise the CPU's
> +	random number generation facilities.
> +

The text message should explain this is only relevant during
initialization / early boot.

The config option name should state this.

> diff --git a/drivers/char/random.c b/drivers/char/random.c
> index 34ddfd57419b..f4013b8a711b 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/random.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/random.c
> @@ -782,6 +782,7 @@ static void invalidate_batched_entropy(void);
>  static void crng_initialize(struct crng_state *crng)
>  {
>  	int		i;
> +	int		arch_init = 1;
>  	unsigned long	rv;
>  
>  	memcpy(&crng->state[0], "expand 32-byte k", 16);
> @@ -792,10 +793,18 @@ static void crng_initialize(struct crng_state *crng)
>  		_get_random_bytes(&crng->state[4], sizeof(__u32) * 12);
>  	for (i = 4; i < 16; i++) {
>  		if (!arch_get_random_seed_long(&rv) &&
> -		    !arch_get_random_long(&rv))
> +		    !arch_get_random_long(&rv)) {
>  			rv = random_get_entropy();
> +			arch_init = 0;
> +		}
>  		crng->state[i] ^= rv;
>  	}
> +#ifdef CONFIG_RANDOM_TRUST_CPU
> +	if (arch_init) {
> +		crng_init = 2;
> +		pr_notice("random: crng done (trusting CPU's manufacturer)\n");
> +	}
> +#endif
>  	crng->init_time = jiffies - CRNG_RESEED_INTERVAL - 1;
>  }
>  

Regards.

-- 
Yann Droneaud
OPTEYA


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