linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v2] media: docs-rst: Document m2m stateless video decoder interface

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Message-ID: <CAAFQd5Cr4OxVQtzT1NyPm+-buZJHsmF0BM6wMTxOdonUpCC_NA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 9 Oct 2018 16:36:03 +0900
From:   Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org>
To:     contact@...lk.fr
Cc:     nicolas@...fresne.ca, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@...omium.org>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
        Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>,
        Pawel Osciak <posciak@...omium.org>,
        Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...tlin.com>,
        Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] media: docs-rst: Document m2m stateless video
 decoder interface

On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:09 AM Paul Kocialkowski <contact@...lk.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Le jeudi 04 octobre 2018 à 14:10 -0400, Nicolas Dufresne a écrit :
> > Le jeudi 04 octobre 2018 à 14:47 +0200, Paul Kocialkowski a écrit :
> > > > +    Instance of struct v4l2_ctrl_h264_scaling_matrix, containing the scaling
> > > > +    matrix to use when decoding the next queued frame. Applicable to the H.264
> > > > +    stateless decoder.
> > > > +
> > > > +``V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_H264_SLICE_PARAM``
> > >
> > > Ditto with "H264_SLICE_PARAMS".
> > >
> > > > +    Array of struct v4l2_ctrl_h264_slice_param, containing at least as many
> > > > +    entries as there are slices in the corresponding ``OUTPUT`` buffer.
> > > > +    Applicable to the H.264 stateless decoder.
> > > > +
> > > > +``V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_H264_DECODE_PARAM``
> > > > +    Instance of struct v4l2_ctrl_h264_decode_param, containing the high-level
> > > > +    decoding parameters for a H.264 frame. Applicable to the H.264 stateless
> > > > +    decoder.
> > >
> > > Since we require all the macroblocks to decode one frame to be held in
> > > the same OUTPUT buffer, it probably doesn't make sense to keep
> > > DECODE_PARAM and SLICE_PARAM distinct.
> > >
> > > I would suggest merging both in "SLICE_PARAMS", similarly to what I
> > > have proposed for H.265: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10578023/
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > I don't understand why we add this arbitrary restriction of "all the
> > macroblocks to decode one frame". The bitstream may contain multiple
> > NALs per frame (e.g. slices), and stateless API shall pass each NAL
> > separately imho. The driver can then decide to combine them if needed,
> > or to keep them seperate. I would expect most decoder to decode each
> > slice independently from each other, even though they write into the
> > same frame.
>
> Well, we sort of always assumed that there is a 1:1 correspondency
> between request and output frame when implemeting the software for
> cedrus, which simplified both userspace and the driver. The approach we
> have taken is to use one of the slice parameters for the whole series
> of slices and just append the slice data.
>
> Now that you bring it up, I realize this is an unfortunate decision.
> This may have been the cause of bugs and limitations with our driver
> because the slice parameters may very well be distinct for each slice.

I might be misunderstanding something, but, at least for the H.264
API, there is no relation between the number of buffers/requests and
number of slice parameters. The V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_H264_SLICE_PARAM
is an array, with each element describing each slice in the OUTPUT
buffer. So actually, it could be up to the userspace if it want to
have 1 OUTPUT buffer per slice or all slices in 1 OUTPUT buffer - the
former would have v4l2_ctrl_h264_decode_param::num_slices = 1 and only
one valid element in V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_H264_SLICE_PARAMS.

> Moreover, I suppose that just appending the slices data implies that
> they are coded in the same order as the picture, which is probably
> often the case but certainly not anything guaranteed.

Again, at least in the H.264 API being proposed here, the order of
slices is not specified by the order of slice data in the buffer. Each
entry of the V4L2_CID_MPEG_VIDEO_H264_SLICE_PARAMS array points to the
specific offset within the buffer.

Best regards,
Tomasz