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Message-ID: <20190122153315.dhjl67sgpu74hmqv@e110439-lin>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:33:15 +0000
From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-api@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>,
Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@....com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
Todd Kjos <tkjos@...gle.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@...gle.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@...gle.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 05/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on
clamp changes
On 22-Jan 15:57, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 02:01:15PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 22-Jan 14:28, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:43:05AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > On 22-Jan 10:37, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Sure, I get that. What I don't get is why you're adding that (2) here.
> > > > > Like said, __sched_setscheduler() already does a dequeue/enqueue under
> > > > > rq->lock, which should already take care of that.
> > > >
> > > > Oh, ok... got it what you mean now.
> > > >
> > > > With:
> > > >
> > > > [PATCH v6 01/16] sched/core: Allow sched_setattr() to use the current policy
> > > > <20190115101513.2822-2-patrick.bellasi@....com>
> > > >
> > > > we can call __sched_setscheduler() with:
> > > >
> > > > attr->sched_flags & SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_POLICY
> > > >
> > > > whenever we want just to change the clamp values of a task without
> > > > changing its class. Thus, we can end up returning from
> > > > __sched_setscheduler() without doing an actual dequeue/enqueue.
> > >
> > > I don't see that happening.. when KEEP_POLICY we set attr.sched_policy =
> > > SETPARAM_POLICY. That is then checked again in __setscheduler_param(),
> > > which is in the middle of that dequeue/enqueue.
> >
> > Yes, I think I've forgot a check before we actually dequeue the task.
> >
> > The current code does:
> >
> > ---8<---
> > SYSCALL_DEFINE3(sched_setattr)
> >
> > // A) request to keep the same policy
> > if (attr.sched_flags & SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_POLICY)
> > attr.sched_policy = SETPARAM_POLICY;
> >
> > sched_setattr()
> > // B) actually enforce the same policy
> > if (policy < 0)
> > policy = oldpolicy = p->policy;
> >
> > // C) tune the clamp values
> > if (attr->sched_flags & SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP)
> > retval = __setscheduler_uclamp(p, attr);
> >
> > // D) tune attributes if policy is the same
> > if (unlikely(policy == p->policy))
> > if (fair_policy(policy) && attr->sched_nice != task_nice(p))
> > goto change;
> > if (rt_policy(policy) && attr->sched_priority != p->rt_priority)
> > goto change;
> > if (dl_policy(policy) && dl_param_changed(p, attr))
> > goto change;
>
> if (util_changed)
> goto change;
>
> ?
>
> > return 0;
> > change:
> >
> > // E) dequeue/enqueue task
> > ---8<---
> >
> > So, probably in D) I've missed a check on SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_POLICY to
> > enforce a return in that case...
> >
> > > Also, and this might be 'broken', SETPARAM_POLICY _does_ reset all the
> > > other attributes, it only preserves policy, but it will (re)set nice
> > > level for example (see that same function).
> >
> > Mmm... right... my bad! :/
> >
> > > So maybe we want to introduce another (few?) FLAG_KEEP flag(s) that
> > > preserve the other bits; I'm thinking at least KEEP_PARAM and KEEP_UTIL
> > > or something.
> >
> > Yes, I would say we have two options:
> >
> > 1) SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_POLICY enforces all the scheduling class specific
> > attributes, but cross class attributes (e.g. uclamp)
> >
> > 2) add SCHED_KEEP_NICE, SCHED_KEEP_PRIO, and SCED_KEEP_PARAMS
> > and use them in the if conditions in D)
>
> So the current KEEP_POLICY basically provides sched_setparam(), and
But it's not exposed user-space.
> given we have that as a syscall, that is supposedly a useful
> functionality.
For uclamp is definitively useful to change clamps without the need to
read beforehand the current policy params and use them in a following
set syscall... which is racy pattern.
> Also, NICE/PRIO/DL* is all the same thing and depends on the policy,
> KEEP_PARAM should cover the lot
Right, that makes sense.
> And I suppose the UTIL_CLAMP is !KEEP_UTIL; we could go either way
> around with that flag.
What about getting rid of the racy case above by exposing userspace
only the new UTIL_CLAMP and, on:
sched_setscheduler(flags: UTIL_CLAMP)
we enforce the other two flags from the syscall:
---8<---
SYSCALL_DEFINE3(sched_setattr)
if (attr.sched_flags & SCHED_FLAG_KEEP_POLICY) {
attr.sched_policy = SETPARAM_POLICY;
attr.sched_flags |= (KEEP_POLICY|KEEP_PARAMS);
}
---8<---
This will not make possible to change class and set flags in one go,
but honestly that's likely a very limited use-case, isn't it ?
> > In both cases the goal should be to return from code block D).
>
> I don't think so; we really do want to 'goto change' for util changes
> too I think. Why duplicate part of that logic?
But that will force a dequeue/enqueue... isn't too much overhead just
to change a clamp value? Perhaps we can also end up with some wired
side-effects like the task being preempted ?
Consider also that the uclamp_task_update_active() added by this patch
not only has lower overhead but it will be use also by cgroups where
we want to force update all the tasks on a cgroup's clamp change.
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#include <best/regards.h>
Patrick Bellasi
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