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Date:   Fri, 22 Mar 2019 14:26:07 +0100
From:   Daniel Lezcano <>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <>,
        Abhishek Goel <>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        linuxppc-dev <>,
        Linux PM <>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <>,
        Michael Ellerman <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] cpuidle : auto-promotion for cpuidle states

On 22/03/2019 10:45, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:31 AM Abhishek Goel
> <> wrote:
>> Currently, the cpuidle governors (menu /ladder) determine what idle state
>> an idling CPU should enter into based on heuristics that depend on the
>> idle history on that CPU. Given that no predictive heuristic is perfect,
>> there are cases where the governor predicts a shallow idle state, hoping
>> that the CPU will be busy soon. However, if no new workload is scheduled
>> on that CPU in the near future, the CPU will end up in the shallow state.
>> In case of POWER, this is problematic, when the predicted state in the
>> aforementioned scenario is a lite stop state, as such lite states will
>> inhibit SMT folding, thereby depriving the other threads in the core from
>> using the core resources.
>> To address this, such lite states need to be autopromoted. The cpuidle-
>> core can queue timer to correspond with the residency value of the next
>> available state. Thus leading to auto-promotion to a deeper idle state as
>> soon as possible.
> Isn't the tick stopping avoidance sufficient for that?

I was about to ask the same :)

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