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Date:   Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:45:55 +0100
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Abhishek Goel <huntbag@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:     Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] cpuidle : auto-promotion for cpuidle states

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 8:31 AM Abhishek Goel
<huntbag@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Currently, the cpuidle governors (menu /ladder) determine what idle state
> an idling CPU should enter into based on heuristics that depend on the
> idle history on that CPU. Given that no predictive heuristic is perfect,
> there are cases where the governor predicts a shallow idle state, hoping
> that the CPU will be busy soon. However, if no new workload is scheduled
> on that CPU in the near future, the CPU will end up in the shallow state.
>
> In case of POWER, this is problematic, when the predicted state in the
> aforementioned scenario is a lite stop state, as such lite states will
> inhibit SMT folding, thereby depriving the other threads in the core from
> using the core resources.
>
> To address this, such lite states need to be autopromoted. The cpuidle-
> core can queue timer to correspond with the residency value of the next
> available state. Thus leading to auto-promotion to a deeper idle state as
> soon as possible.

Isn't the tick stopping avoidance sufficient for that?

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