Message-ID: <20190423054157.GA26190@joy-OptiPlex-7040>
Date:   Tue, 23 Apr 2019 01:41:57 -0400
From:   Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>
To:     Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] vfio/mdev: add version field as mandatory attribute
 for mdev device

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 09:21:00AM +0800, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:01:52 -0400
> Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:39:50PM +0800, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 04:35:04 -0400
> > > Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@...el.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > device version attribute in mdev sysfs is used by user space software
> > > > (e.g. libvirt) to query device compatibility for live migration of VFIO
> > > > mdev devices. This attribute is mandatory if a mdev device supports live
> > > > migration.  
> > > 
> > > The Subject: doesn't quite match what's being proposed here.
> > >    
> > > > It consists of two parts: common part and vendor proprietary part.
> > > > common part: 32 bit. lower 16 bits is vendor id and higher 16 bits
> > > >              identifies device type. e.g., for pci device, it is
> > > >              "pci vendor id" | (VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_PCI << 16).  
> > > 
> > > What purpose does this serve?  If it's intended as some sort of
> > > namespace feature, shouldn't we first assume that we can only support
> > > migration to devices of the same type?  Therefore each type would
> > > already have its own namespace.  Also that would make the trailing bit
> > > of the version string listed below in the example redundant.  A vendor
> > > is still welcome to include this in their version string if they wish,
> > > but I think the string should be entirely vendor defined.
> > >  
> > hi Alex,
> > This common part is a kind of namespace.
> > Because if version string is entirely defined by vendors, I'm worried about
> > if there is a case that one vendor's version string happens to deceive and
> > interfere with another vendor's version checking?
> > e.g.
> > vendor A has a version string like: vendor id + device id + mdev type
> > vendor B has a version string like: device id + vendor id + mdev type
> > but vendor A's vendor id is 0x8086, device id is 0x1217
> > vendor B's vendor id is 0x1217, device id is 0x8086.
> > 
> > In this corner case, the two vendors may regard the two device is
> > migratable but actually they are not.
> > 
> > That's the reason for this common part that serve as a kind of namespace
> > that all vendors will comply with to avoid overlap.
> 
> If we assume that migration can only occur between matching mdev types,
> this is redundant, each type already has their own namespace.
>
hi Alex,
do you mean user space software like libvirt needs to first check whether
mdev type is matching and then check whether version is matching?

if user space software only checks version for migration, it means vendor
driver has to include mdev type in their vendor proprietary part string,
right?

Another thing is that could there be any future mdev parent driver that
applies to all mdev devices, just like vfio-pci? like Yi's vfio-pci-mdev
driver (https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/3/13/114)?

> > > > vendor proprietary part: this part is varied in length. vendor driver can
> > > >              specify any string to identify a device.
> > > > 
> > > > When reading this attribute, it should show device version string of the
> > > > device of type <type-id>. If a device does not support live migration, it
> > > > should return errno.
> > > > When writing a string to this attribute, it returns errno for
> > > > incompatibility or returns written string length in compatibility case.
> > > > If a device does not support live migration, it always returns errno.
> > > > 
> > > > For user space software to use:
> > > > 1.
> > > > Before starting live migration, user space software first reads source side
> > > > mdev device's version. e.g.
> > > > "#cat \
> > > > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/5ac1fb20-2bbf-4842-bb7e-36c58c3be9cd/mdev_type/version"
> > > > 00028086-193b-i915-GVTg_V5_4
> > > > 
> > > > 2.
> > > > Then, user space software writes the source side returned version string
> > > > to device version attribute in target side, and checks the return value.
> > > > If a negative errno is returned in the target side, then mdev devices in
> > > > source and target sides are not compatible;
> > > > If a positive number is returned and it equals to the length of written
> > > > string, then the two mdev devices in source and target side are compatible.
> > > > e.g.
> > > > (a) compatibility case
> > > > "# echo 00028086-193b-i915-GVTg_V5_4 >
> > > > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/882cc4da-dede-11e7-9180-078a62063ab1/mdev_type/version"
> > > > 
> > > > (b) incompatibility case
> > > > "#echo 00028086-193b-i915-GVTg_V5_1 >
> > > > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/882cc4da-dede-11e7-9180-078a62063ab1/mdev_type/version"
> > > > -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
> > > > 
> > > > 3. if two mdev devices are compatible, user space software can start
> > > > live migration, and vice versa.
> > > > 
> > > > Note: if a mdev device does not support live migration, it either does
> > > > not provide a version attribute, or always returns errno when its version
> > > > attribute is read/written.  
> > > 
> > > I think it would be cleaner to do the former, not supply the
> > > attribute.  This seems to do the latter in the sample drivers.  Thanks,  
> > Ok. you are right!
> > what about just keep one sample driver to show how to do the latter,
> > and let the others do the former?
> 
> I'd rather that if a vendor driver doesn't support features requiring
> the version attribute that they don't implement it.  It's confusing to
> developers looking at the sample driver for guidance if we have
> different implementations.  Of course if you'd like to add migration
> support to one of the sample drivers, that'd be very welcome.  Thanks,
>
Got it:)

Thanks!
Yan

> 
> > > > Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
> > > > Cc: Erik Skultety <eskultet@...hat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@...hat.com>
> > > > Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@...hat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>
> > > > Cc: Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@...ux.intel.com>
> > > > Cc: "Wang, Zhi A" <zhi.a.wang@...el.com>
> > > > Cc: Neo Jia <cjia@...dia.com>
> > > > Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@...dia.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@...el.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  samples/vfio-mdev/mbochs.c             | 17 ++++++++++++
> > > >  samples/vfio-mdev/mdpy.c               | 16 ++++++++++++
> > > >  samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c               | 16 ++++++++++++
> > > >  4 files changed, 85 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt b/Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt
> > > > index c3f69bcaf96e..bc28471c0667 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt
> > > > @@ -202,6 +202,7 @@ Directories and files under the sysfs for Each Physical Device
> > > >    |     |   |--- available_instances
> > > >    |     |   |--- device_api
> > > >    |     |   |--- description
> > > > +  |     |   |--- version
> > > >    |     |   |--- [devices]
> > > >    |     |--- [<type-id>]
> > > >    |     |   |--- create
> > > > @@ -209,6 +210,7 @@ Directories and files under the sysfs for Each Physical Device
> > > >    |     |   |--- available_instances
> > > >    |     |   |--- device_api
> > > >    |     |   |--- description
> > > > +  |     |   |--- version
> > > >    |     |   |--- [devices]
> > > >    |     |--- [<type-id>]
> > > >    |          |--- create
> > > > @@ -216,6 +218,7 @@ Directories and files under the sysfs for Each Physical Device
> > > >    |          |--- available_instances
> > > >    |          |--- device_api
> > > >    |          |--- description
> > > > +  |          |--- version
> > > >    |          |--- [devices]
> > > >  
> > > >  * [mdev_supported_types]
> > > > @@ -225,6 +228,8 @@ Directories and files under the sysfs for Each Physical Device
> > > >    [<type-id>], device_api, and available_instances are mandatory attributes
> > > >    that should be provided by vendor driver.
> > > >  
> > > > +  version is a mandatory attribute if a mdev device supports live migration.
> > > > +
> > > >  * [<type-id>]
> > > >  
> > > >    The [<type-id>] name is created by adding the device driver string as a prefix
> > > > @@ -246,6 +251,35 @@ Directories and files under the sysfs for Each Physical Device
> > > >    This attribute should show the number of devices of type <type-id> that can be
> > > >    created.
> > > >  
> > > > +* version
> > > > +
> > > > +  This attribute is rw. It is used to check whether two devices are compatible
> > > > +  for live migration. If this attribute is missing, then the corresponding mdev
> > > > +  device is regarded as not supporting live migration.
> > > > +
> > > > +  It consists of two parts: common part and vendor proprietary part.
> > > > +  common part: 32 bit. lower 16 bits is vendor id and higher 16 bits identifies
> > > > +               device type. e.g., for pci device, it is
> > > > +               "pci vendor id" | (VFIO_DEVICE_FLAGS_PCI << 16).
> > > > +  vendor proprietary part: this part is varied in length. vendor driver can
> > > > +               specify any string to identify a device.
> > > > +
> > > > +  When reading this attribute, it should show device version string of the device
> > > > +  of type <type-id>. If a device does not support live migration, it should
> > > > +  return errno.
> > > > +  When writing a string to this attribute, it returns errno for incompatibility
> > > > +  or returns written string length in compatibility case. If a device does not
> > > > +  support live migration, it always returns errno.
> > > > +
> > > > +  for example.
> > > > +  # cat \
> > > > + /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/mdev_supported_types/i915-GVTg_V5_2/version
> > > > +  00028086-193b-i915-GVTg_V5_2
> > > > +
> > > > +  #echo 00028086-193b-i915-GVTg_V5_2 > \
> > > > + /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:00\:02.0/mdev_supported_types/i915-GVTg_V5_4/version
> > > > + -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
> > > > +
> > > >  * [device]
> > > >  
> > > >    This directory contains links to the devices of type <type-id> that have been
> > > > @@ -327,12 +361,14 @@ card.
> > > >          |   |   |-- available_instances
> > > >          |   |   |-- create
> > > >          |   |   |-- device_api
> > > > +        |   |   |-- version
> > > >          |   |   |-- devices
> > > >          |   |   `-- name
> > > >          |   `-- mtty-2
> > > >          |       |-- available_instances
> > > >          |       |-- create
> > > >          |       |-- device_api
> > > > +        |       |-- version
> > > >          |       |-- devices
> > > >          |       `-- name
> > > >          |-- mtty_dev
> > > > diff --git a/samples/vfio-mdev/mbochs.c b/samples/vfio-mdev/mbochs.c
> > > > index b038aa9f5a70..2f5ba96b91a2 100644
> > > > --- a/samples/vfio-mdev/mbochs.c
> > > > +++ b/samples/vfio-mdev/mbochs.c
> > > > @@ -1391,11 +1391,28 @@ static ssize_t device_api_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > >  }
> > > >  MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RO(device_api);
> > > >  
> > > > +static ssize_t version_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		char *buf)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static ssize_t version_store(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		const char *buf, size_t count)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RW(version);
> > > > +
> > > >  static struct attribute *mdev_types_attrs[] = {
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_name.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_description.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_device_api.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_available_instances.attr,
> > > > +	&mdev_type_attr_version.attr,
> > > >  	NULL,
> > > >  };
> > > >  
> > > > diff --git a/samples/vfio-mdev/mdpy.c b/samples/vfio-mdev/mdpy.c
> > > > index cc86bf6566e4..ff15fdfc7d46 100644
> > > > --- a/samples/vfio-mdev/mdpy.c
> > > > +++ b/samples/vfio-mdev/mdpy.c
> > > > @@ -695,11 +695,27 @@ static ssize_t device_api_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > >  }
> > > >  MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RO(device_api);
> > > >  
> > > > +static ssize_t version_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		char *buf)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static ssize_t version_store(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		const char *buf, size_t count)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +static MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RW(version);
> > > > +
> > > >  static struct attribute *mdev_types_attrs[] = {
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_name.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_description.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_device_api.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_available_instances.attr,
> > > > +	&mdev_type_attr_version.attr,
> > > >  	NULL,
> > > >  };
> > > >  
> > > > diff --git a/samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c b/samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c
> > > > index 1c77c370c92f..4ae3aad3474d 100644
> > > > --- a/samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c
> > > > +++ b/samples/vfio-mdev/mtty.c
> > > > @@ -1390,10 +1390,26 @@ static ssize_t device_api_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > >  
> > > >  MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RO(device_api);
> > > >  
> > > > +static ssize_t version_show(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		char *buf)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static ssize_t version_store(struct kobject *kobj, struct device *dev,
> > > > +		const char *buf, size_t count)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	/* do not support live migration */
> > > > +	return -EINVAL;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static MDEV_TYPE_ATTR_RW(version);
> > > >  static struct attribute *mdev_types_attrs[] = {
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_name.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_device_api.attr,
> > > >  	&mdev_type_attr_available_instances.attr,
> > > > +	&mdev_type_attr_version.attr,
> > > >  	NULL,
> > > >  };
> > > >    
> > > 
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