linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] swiotlb: Factor out slot allocation and free

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Message-ID: <90182d27-5764-7676-8ca6-b2773a40cfe1@arm.com>
Date:   Mon, 29 Apr 2019 12:06:52 +0100
From:   Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
To:     Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>, ashok.raj@...el.com,
        jacob.jun.pan@...el.com, alan.cox@...el.com, kevin.tian@...el.com,
        mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com, pengfei.xu@...el.com,
        Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] swiotlb: Factor out slot allocation and free

On 29/04/2019 06:10, Lu Baolu wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
> 
> On 4/26/19 11:04 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:07:19AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>> This is not VT-d specific. It's just how generic IOMMU works.
>>>
>>> Normally, IOMMU works in paging mode. So if a driver issues DMA with
>>> IOVA  0xAAAA0123, IOMMU can remap it with a physical address 0xBBBB0123.
>>> But we should never expect IOMMU to remap 0xAAAA0123 with physical
>>> address of 0xBBBB0000. That's the reason why I said that IOMMU will not
>>> work there.
>>
>> Well, with the iommu it doesn't happen.  With swiotlb it obviosuly
>> can happen, so drivers are fine with it.  Why would that suddenly
>> become an issue when swiotlb is called from the iommu code?
>>
> 
> I would say IOMMU is DMA remapping, not DMA engine. :-)

I'm not sure I really follow the issue here - if we're copying the 
buffer to the bounce page(s) there's no conceptual difference from 
copying it to SWIOTLB slot(s), so there should be no need to worry about 
the original in-page offset.

 From the reply up-thread I guess you're trying to include an 
optimisation to only copy the head and tail of the buffer if it spans 
multiple pages, and directly map the ones in the middle, but AFAICS 
that's going to tie you to also using strict mode for TLB maintenance, 
which may not be a win overall depending on the balance between 
invalidation bandwidth vs. memcpy bandwidth. At least if we use standard 
SWIOTLB logic to always copy the whole thing, we should be able to 
release the bounce pages via the flush queue to allow 'safe' lazy unmaps.

Either way I think it would be worth just implementing the 
straightforward version first, then coming back to consider 
optimisations later.

Robin.