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Message-ID: <CAOuPNLigooUw7RUj-tYX7isZg2FYRiq=15jduKJy-z6JgPLVVg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:34:27 +0530
From:   Pintu Agarwal <pintu.ping@...il.com>
To:     Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletnieks@...edu>
Cc:     Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Fabio Estevam <festevam@...il.com>,
        linux-pm@...r.kernel.org, open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "moderated list:ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Kernelnewbies <kernelnewbies@...nelnewbies.org>
Subject: Re: [IMX] [DRM]: suspend/resume support

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 9:56 PM Valdis Klētnieks
<valdis.kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 20:47:34 +0530, Pintu Agarwal said:
>
> > No I mean to say, there are lots of features and customization already
> > done on this version and stabilized.
> > Upgrading again may require months of effort.
>
> This is what happens when you don't upstream your local changes.
>
> And no, saying "But we're a small company and nobody cares" isn't an
> excuse - Linux carried the entire Voyager architecture around for several years
> for 2 machines. Not two models, 2 physical machines, the last 2 operational
> systems of the product line.
>
> (Not the Xubuntu-based Voyage distribution either - the Voyager was a mid-80s
> SMP fault-tolerant system from NCR with up to 32 486/586 cores and 4G of
> memory, which was a honking big system for the day...)
>
> https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rzhang/linux/+/v2.6.20-rc1/Documentation/voyager.txt
>
> The architecture was finally dropped in 2009 when enough hardware failures
> had happened that James Bottomley was unable to create a bootable
> system from the parts from both...
>
> So if your production run is several thousand systems, that's *plenty* big
> enough for patches and drivers (especially since drivers for hardware you
> included in your several-thousand system run are also likely applicable to
> a half dozen other vendors who made several thousand systems using the
> same chipset....

Yes, I agree, but unfortunately I don't have any control.
I normally keep finding things, which seems interesting for me and
propose for upstream (even if it is very small).
And, I completely agree that system should be designed such a way that
it can be easily up-gradable.
But, as I said, its not fully in our hand :(

Also, I think this case is slightly different.
Here, even if I try with latest kernel, there is no use, since
hibernation feature is not fully support for IMX.
And I think that is already known.
I came here looking for some pointers and help and get some clue to
proceed further.
If I succeed in making it I will definitely like to contribute upstream :)

Thank You!

Regards,
Pintu

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