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Message-ID: <20190621151640.GI18954@arrakis.emea.arm.com>
Date:   Fri, 21 Jun 2019 16:16:41 +0100
From:   Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To:     Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@....com>
Cc:     Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] arm64: Define
 Documentation/arm64/tagged-address-abi.txt

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 02:13:01PM +0100, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> On 13/06/2019 16:51, Vincenzo Frascino wrote:
> > +The ARM64 Tagged Address ABI is an opt-in feature, and an application can
> > +control it using the following:
> > + - /proc/sys/abi/tagged_addr: a new sysctl interface that can be used to
> > +        prevent the applications from enabling the relaxed ABI.
> > +        The sysctl is meant also for testing purposes in order to provide a
> > +        simple way for the userspace to verify the return error checking of
> > +        the prctl() commands without having to reconfigure the kernel.
> > +        The sysctl supports the following configuration options:
> > +         - 0: Disable ARM64 Tagged Address ABI for all the applications.
> > +         - 1 (Default): Enable ARM64 Tagged Address ABI for all the
> > +                        applications.
> 
> I find this very confusing, because it suggests that the default value of
> PR_GET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL for new processes will be set to the value of this
> sysctl, when in fact this sysctl is about restricting the *availability* of
> the new ABI. Instead of disabling the ABI, I would talk about disabling
> access to the new ABI here.

This bullet point needs to be re-written. The sysctl is meant to disable
opting in to the ABI. I'd also drop the "meant for testing" part. I put
it in my commit log as justification but I don't think it should be part
of the ABI document.

> > + - prctl()s:
> > +  - PR_SET_TAGGED_ADDR_CTRL: can be used to enable or disable the Tagged
> > +        Address ABI.
> > +        The (unsigned int) arg2 argument is a bit mask describing the
> > +        control mode used:
> > +          - PR_TAGGED_ADDR_ENABLE: Enable ARM64 Tagged Address ABI.
> > +        The arguments arg3, arg4, and arg5 are ignored.
> 
> Have we definitely decided that arg{3,4,5} are ignored? Catalin?

I don't have a strong preference either way. If it's simpler for the
user to ignore them, fine by me. I can see in the current prctl commands
a mix if ignore vs forced zero.

> > +the ABI guarantees the following behaviours:
> > +
> > +  - Every current or newly introduced syscall can accept any valid tagged
> > +    pointers.
> "pointer". Also, is it really useful to talk about newly introduced syscall?
> New from which point of view?

I think we should drop this guarantee. It would have made sense if we
allowed tagged pointers everywhere but we already have some exceptions.

> > +3. ARM64 Tagged Address ABI Exceptions
> > +--------------------------------------
> > +
> > +The behaviours described in section 2, with particular reference to the
> > +acceptance by the syscalls of any valid tagged pointer are not applicable
> > +to the following cases:
> > +  - mmap() addr parameter.
> > +  - mremap() new_address parameter.
> > +  - prctl_set_mm() struct prctl_map fields.
> > +  - prctl_set_mm_map() struct prctl_map fields.
> 
> prctl_set_mm() and prctl_set_mm_map() are internal kernel functions, not
> syscall names. IIUC, we don't want to allow any address field settable via
> the PR_SET_MM prctl() to be tagged. Catalin, is that correct? I think this
> needs rephrasing.

I fully agree. It should talk about PR_SET_MM, PR_SET_MM_MAP,
PR_SET_MM_MAP_SIZE.

-- 
Catalin

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