linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] mm/page_idle: Add per-pid idle page tracking using virtual index

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Message-ID: <20190807213105.GA14622@google.com>
Date:   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:31:05 -0400
From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
To:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] mm/page_idle: Add per-pid idle page tracking
 using virtual index

On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:58:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 16:45:30 -0400 Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:04:02PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Wed,  7 Aug 2019 13:15:54 -0400 "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@...lfernandes.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > In Android, we are using this for the heap profiler (heapprofd) which
> > > > profiles and pin points code paths which allocates and leaves memory
> > > > idle for long periods of time. This method solves the security issue
> > > > with userspace learning the PFN, and while at it is also shown to yield
> > > > better results than the pagemap lookup, the theory being that the window
> > > > where the address space can change is reduced by eliminating the
> > > > intermediate pagemap look up stage. In virtual address indexing, the
> > > > process's mmap_sem is held for the duration of the access.
> > > 
> > > So is heapprofd a developer-only thing?  Is heapprofd included in
> > > end-user android loads?  If not then, again, wouldn't it be better to
> > > make the feature Kconfigurable so that Android developers can enable it
> > > during development then disable it for production kernels?
> > 
> > Almost all of this code is already configurable with
> > CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING. If you disable it, then all of this code gets
> > disabled.
> > 
> > Or are you referring to something else that needs to be made configurable?
> 
> Yes - the 300+ lines of code which this patchset adds!
> 
> The impacted people will be those who use the existing
> idle-page-tracking feature but who will not use the new feature.  I
> guess we can assume this set is small...

Yes, I think this set should be small. The code size increase of page_idle.o
is from ~1KB to ~2KB. Most of the extra space is consumed by
page_idle_proc_generic() function which this patch adds. I don't think adding
another CONFIG option to disable this while keeping existing
CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING enabled, is worthwhile but I am open to the
addition of such an option if anyone feels strongly about it. I believe that
once this patch is merged, most like this new interface being added is what
will be used more than the old interface (for some of the usecases) so it
makes sense to keep it alive with CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING.

thanks,

 - Joel